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This is an easy one.

Solution: For wasting the time of the court with a frivolent suit of ridiculous proportion, the court hereby fines PETA $10 million to be paid, forthwith. Until the fine is fully paid, PETA attorney, David Schwarz, and PETA's general counsel, Jeff Kerr, are hereby remanded to a cell in San Quentin prison.

Oh ... as for this statement: "Where does it end? If a monkey can sue for copyright infringement, what else can a monkey do?" I will defer to Professor Monkeytrots as to "what else a monkey can do."




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PETA tries to use federal court to commit robbery
By: Beldin
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Thu, 13 Jul 17 9:53 PM
Msg. 29053 of 47202

Federal court to rule if a monkey owns the copyright for its selfie photos

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/07/federal_court_to_rule_if_a_mon.html

By Associated Press

SAN FRANCISCO {OF COURSE - where else would such buffoonery take place, eh?!} A curious monkey with a toothy grin and a knack for pressing a camera button was back in the spotlight Wednesday as a federal appeals court heard arguments on whether an animal can hold a copyright to selfie photos.

A 45-minute hearing before a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco attracted crowds of law students and curious citizens who often burst into laughter. The federal judges also chuckled at times at the novelty of the case, which involves a monkey in another country that is unaware of the fuss.

Andrew Dhuey, attorney for British nature photographer David Slater, said "monkey see, monkey sue" is not good law under any federal act.

Naruto is a free-living crested macaque who snapped perfectly framed selfies in 2011 that would make even the Kardashians proud.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals sued Slater and the San Francisco-based self-publishing company Blurb, which published a book called "Wildlife Personalities" that includes the monkey selfies, for copyright infringement. It sought a court order in 2015 allowing it to administer all proceeds from the photos taken in a wildlife reserve in Sulawesi, Indonesia to benefit the monkey. {Ah, here is the money-shot - PETA tries to step in out of nowhere and get the court to allow it to "administer all proceeds" - as in, PETA wants to use the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals as a loaded gun to rob Slater and his publisher and use such illicit gains for its own benefit.}

Slater says the British copyright for the photos obtained by his company, Wildlife Personalities Ltd., should be honored.

PETA attorney David Schwarz argued that Naruto was accustomed to cameras and took the selfies when he saw himself in the reflection of the lens.

A federal judge ruled against PETA and the monkey last year, saying he lacked the right to sue because there was no indication that Congress intended to extend copyright protection to animals. {Our court system is backed up beyond belief - WHY ARE YOU WASTING TIME ON THESE PETA IDIOTS!}

Throughout Wednesday's hearing, Schwarz pushed back, arguing that the case came down to one simple fact: photographs can be copyrighted and Naruto is the author.

"We have to look at the word 'authorship' in the broadest sense," he said.

The judges grilled him on why PETA has status to represent Naruto and said that "having genuine care for the animal" isn't enough to establish "next friend" relationship, which is required to represent the monkey in court.

The judges did not issue a ruling Wednesday.

Angela Dunning, an attorney for Blurb, wondered at the possibilities if they do not prevail.

"Where does it end? If a monkey can sue for copyright infringement, what else can a monkey do?" she said after the hearing.

PETA's general counsel Jeff Kerr said after the hearing that the group plans to use money from the photos to protect monkey habitats and help people study the monkeys.


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