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Re: Weather events 2 

By: lkorrow in POPE IV | Recommend this post (2)
Wed, 13 Sep 17 10:24 AM | 124 view(s)
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I was thinking economic collapse was the most difficult to pin down. There's economic warfare (attacks on the dollar, BDS, luring us into too many theaters, etc.) and cyber warfare, which could create many types of problems.

Agree debt's problematic and increasing the national debt has a certain momentum from Obama, but it has been reported that the national debt declined by $100 billion under Trump. I have not checked the primary source on that. Now it pops over $20 trillion. Didn't Obama close out his second term at close to that? What caused the debt to spurt over $20 trillion, I don't know. Maybe those savings went to get the military back on its feet, or go towards hurricane relief. Whatever. No time to research the debt.

But I see your point and am still for tar and feathering all those living who spent our SS surplus. Scoundrels!




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Re: Weather events 2
By: Decomposed in POPE IV
Wed, 13 Sep 17 12:34 AM 		Msg. 33886 of 47202

Lkorrow: 

re: "The root causes of TEOTWAWKI are very obscure . . ."

They're only obscure because TEOTWAWKI itself can mean many things: E.M.P., supervolcano, meteor impact, disease pandemic, nuclear war, nuclear winter, artificial intelligence, anthropogenic global warming, ice age, terrorism, civil war.

The only one I take seriously is economic collapse. (Terorism and E.M.P. are distant seconds.) The root cause of economic collapse is obvious enough: It's our government's intent to spend itself into oblivion through the exploitation of fiat currency.
 

re: "Step 1 has been taken, recognition that what is happening is elitist exploitation of society overall and squeezing every last penny out of the people, who have not organized to defend themselves and our way of life. "

While I agree that that may be Step 1, I disagree that it has been taken. Remember that the problem is bigger than just us. It's global. Most of the world hasn't acted out against the Establishment. The Brits have; we have and Iceland. Has anyone else?

While some of President Trump's supporters may be rebelling against elitist exploitation of society, I think many were actually rebelling against Hillary Clinton. If Bernie Sanders had been the Left's nominee, he would be President today. Bernie's policies were even worse than Hillary's. Joe Biden would also have won, and he's as "Establishment" as they come.

Meanwhile, eight months in office and the U.S. debt under Donald Trump is continuing to worsen. It made headlines for topping $20 trillion yesterday. If those who tally the federal debt want to be honest, they'd also include Social Security and Medicare obligations... suddenly turning our twenty trillion dollar debt into a ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY trillion debt. Conservatively. I think the number is more like $200 trillion.

We have 325 million citizens in the United States. There's at least a hundred and twenty trillion dollar debt. Do the math. We're NOT going to find a clean solution to this mess. It's far too late for that.
 

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