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Re: We're All to Blame For Monster Government 

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Wed, 13 Sep 17 9:05 PM | 123 view(s)
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Quite agree with what is stated.

However,

WHAT power did ANY American back when FDR perpetrated this SCAM upon the Public did ANY citizen have to stop it or from keeping the government out of your paycheck even if they saw thru the scam and were not fooled by the rhetoric and salesmanship? Hence, they were not duped.

Many might have been. I am confident that MOST were.

But not all. I think Walter is painting with too broad of a brush.

You cannot be duped by something that you have absolutely no ability to change, affect, control, or be FORCED to be part of even if you don't want to.

That is not being duped. That is being coerced and forced....

Just saying....... Don;t disagree about the lies of Congress. That has not changed in centuries. Yes even prior to Lincoln...

If I had a way to keep my money going to the fed I would. But I can't. I am not duped. You are not duped. You are nothing more than a vassel of the state.. with no ability to make ANY change at all. Forced at the end of a gun..... May as well be...


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Re: We're All to Blame For Monster Government
By: Decomposed in POPE IV
Wed, 13 Sep 17 8:44 PM 		Msg. 33985 of 47202

More by Walter Williams about the dishonest claims in the original 1936 Social Security pamphlet: 

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The Social Security pamphlet adds another lie: “Beginning November 24, 1936, the United States government will set up a Social Security account for you. ...The checks will come to you as a right.You will get them regardless of the amount of property or income you may have.”That’s another lie. First, there’s no Social Security account for you, but more important, in Helvering v. Davis (1937) the Supreme Court held that Social Security was not an insurance program, saying, “The proceeds of both (employee and employer) taxes are to be paid into the Treasury like internal-revenue taxes generally, and are not earmarked in any way.” In a later decision, Flemming v. Nestor (1960), the Court said, “To engraft upon Social Security system a concept of ‘accrued property rights’ would deprive it of the flexibility and boldness in adjustment to ever-changing conditions which it demands. . . .” That ruling established the principle that entitlement to Social Security benefits is not a contractual right. “Flexibility and boldness” means Congress can constitutionally do anything it wishes, including cutting benefits, raising retirement age, increasing Social Security taxes, and ultimately eliminating payments for some or all Americans.
 
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http://walterewilliams.com/publications/freeman/Oct10.pdf

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