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Another solid explanation I found for the seeming lack of EMP effects following the Hiroshima blast. Is it right? Beats me. I believe EMP to be a MAGNETIC phenomenon, but I don't know if the magnetic pulse is due to ionization. If it is, then this author has the answer to mt's question. 

My understanding is that the Electromagnetic Pulse induced by a nuclear weapon is mainly due to the ionizing effect of the gamma rays released by the nuclear reaction. However, for this ionizing effect to produce a downward blast of electrons moving at relativistic speed to the ground (the cause of the voltage shock on the ground), the ionizing effect has to take place in a conducting medium.

The atmosphere is a poor conducting medium below 10km so any nuclear explosion below this altitude only provokes a mild shock. Little Boy detonated at about 580m above the ground and Fat Man at about 500m above the ground.

Beside altitude, the most significant factor determining the strength of the EMP is a the gamma rays yield, which is about 0,5% of the total energy yield of the detonation (according to Wiki). Little Boy had a total yield of of 16 kilotons of TNT. As you can see in the chart below, a 0,08 kiloton detonation yields a mild voltage shock even at high altitude.

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Add to that the fact that electronics in 1945 was vacuum-tube based (transistors would only be developed in 1947) and one can safely assume that the effect of the EMP was negligible (especially compared to the direct thermal effect of the detonation).

http://history.stackexchange.com/questions/26129/what-were-the-emp-effects-if-any-of-the-atomic-bombing-of-hiroshima-and-nagasa




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Re: edited: On EMP damage - riddle me this ...
By: Decomposed
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Fri, 13 Oct 17 10:15 AM
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re: "THEN - How the hell did the Enola Gay manage to keep flying after dropping the A-Bomb ? "

The same way that old cars would probably continue to work following a distant EMP attack. Fine circuitry is what's most vulnerable to shorting out, not the clunky wiring that you'd find in a Model T or B-17. They might be vulnerable to a huge EMP, but probably not to a small one.

In response to the question "Did the Hiroshima bomb create an EMP?" Quora says:
 

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Warren Musselman, Physics and nuclear weapons geek
Answered Jan 29

Localized - meaning within a few tens of kilometers. All nuclear detonations create electromagnetic energy which overwhelms radios, microwave, etc…. unless they are detonated at an altitude which is high enough to interact more with the earth’s magnetic field rather than atmosphere, then EMP from a single detonation is not a widespread phenomenon. To create widespread EMP damage to ground based infrastructure, you need to detonate at an appropriate altitude with a certain level of yield. Theory says three 1–4 megaton devices detonated 40+ kilometers above the US will paralyze communications, destroy microprocessors and possible burn up large portions of the electrical and wireline telecommunications infrastructure. 

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