The old libertarian wing of the party was kinda brutal but they weren't dishonest. The entire GOP is now brutal and dishonest. There's no longer any conversation to be had with them. That party needs to disappear. The right needs a new leadership, new representatives, new media support, fresh ideas, the whole thing.
I used to think it was the party of science and bold experiments. If it was at least that again it would be worth something.