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By: kathy_s17 in CONSTITUTION | Recommend this post (1)
Tue, 06 Nov 18 5:31 AM | 132 view(s)
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Just reminds me of the nuclear option and the one-eyed Harry Reid. First he wants to go to 50 votes, but when it really counts, he(and they) want it to go back to 60. Bunch of spoiled, rotten meatballs.

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Revamping the Senate is a fantasy
By: Zimbler0
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Tue, 06 Nov 18 3:48 AM
Msg. 21774 of 21975

Revamping the Senate is a fantasy

http://www.theindependent.com/opinion/letters/revamping-the-senate-is-a-fantasy/article_9c8c59ec-ce69-11e8-8fd6-db6e582ebcff.html

As the confirmation of Justice Brett Kavanaugh made its painful way through the Senate, a number of liberals began to make an important discovery: The U.S. Senate is undemocratic. Small states get the same quantity of senators as large states. It’s often added that the ratio of population between the largest and the smallest states was “only” 12 to 1 when the Constitution was first adopted. Now it is 68 to 1. (California to Wyoming, in case you’re counting.)

Dissatisfaction with this aspect of constitutional design fits in with leftover frustration over the Electoral College in 2016. Together these nonmajoritarian flaws are breeding demands for change. Something must be done, the critics say, to avoid rendering the Supreme Court, presidency and perhaps the entire Constitution illegitimate.

There’s nothing incorrect about the objections. The design of the Senate is anti-democratic. In fact, it’s so undemocratic that it would be unconstitutional if it were used by the states. After the Supreme Court adopted the one person one vote principle in the 1960s, states were obligated to apply a proportional method for representation of their own senatorial districts.


However, the equal protection clause of the Constitution doesn’t apply to the Senate itself. That’s because the design of the Senate is baked into the Constitution – and it was baked in long before the equal protection clause was even imagined.

But here’s the thing: The Constitution was designed precisely so that no one would be able to do anything about the undemocratic Senate. Almost uniquely among constitutional provisions, and unlike the Electoral College, the assignment of two senators to every state regardless of population is essentially unamendable. The Constitution specifically says that states can only lose their Senate representation with their consent. That’s never going to happen.

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