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I decided against making a bulk purchase of grocery bags right now since I'm uncertain how long they last. Plastic grocery bags are usually very low quality with holes in the bottom and seams that easily rip, so if the bags deteriorate at all while stored, I could wind up with a case of scrap plastic. (My early research suggests they only degrade when exposed to sunlight.) I know I've got a few years, at least, before such bags might be in short supply, so I'll do more research and buy them later.
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I was more comfortable buying newspaper bags. They're a different type of plastic, 8 mil and far stronger. The ones I've seen are usually air tight and can be used for almost anything, including food, and maybe even water. Because of the quantity discount, I bought 2,000 of the 7½" x 21" bags shown below from ClearBags.com. Shipping was another $9, amounting to $49 total which was about what Amazon was charging for just 1,000. Moreover, Amazon's bags looked the same but had a single TERRIBLE review (one star).
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The bags I ordered are the larger ones that'd normally be used for Sunday papers. Hopefully they're well made - the reviews were positive.




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Plastic Bags
By: Decomposed
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Sat, 30 Mar 19 12:39 AM
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Yet another item to stock up on: 1,000 packs of grocery bags. Here they are on Amazon for $17.64 each. Buy at least one.

http://www.amazon.com/T-Shirt-Plastic-Recyclable-Grocery-Shopping/dp/B06XKC7YMF/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=plastic+grocery+bags&qid=1553897737&s=gateway&sr=8-8


March 29, 2019

Ban on plastic bags comes close to reality in a 3rd state

By CHRIS CAROLA and DAVID KLEPPER
APnews.com



ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — Gov. Andrew Cuomo and fellow Democrats who control the Legislature have reached a deal to make New York the third state with a ban on single-use plastic grocery bags as they worked to finalize budget agreements, officials said Friday.

The ban would prohibit grocery stores from providing plastic bags for most purchases, something California has been doing since a statewide ban was approved in 2016. Hawaii has an effective statewide ban, with all its counties imposing their own restrictions.

Supporters of such bans say they keep plastic bags from entering the environment and causing damage to ecosystems and waterways.

“With this smart, multi-pronged action New York will be leading the way to protect our natural resources now and for future generations of New Yorkers,” Cuomo, who proposed a ban in his $175 billion budget proposal, said in a statement Friday.

New York’s ban wouldn’t take effect until next March. The plan also calls for allowing local governments the option to impose a 5-cent fee on paper bags, with 3 cents going to the state’s Environmental Protection Fund and 2 cents kept by local governments.

Environmental conservation advocates had also been pushing for a statewide fee for paper bags as a way to encourage wider consumer use of reusable bags.

Nonetheless, Patrick McClellan, state policy director for the New York League of Conservation Voters, said his group was “thrilled” that the bag ban appears headed for passage.

“Plastic bags pollute our waterways and streets, and both plastic and paper bags contribute to the solid waste crisis and cost taxpayers money,” he said. “While the best policy would be a ban on plastic bags coupled with a statewide fee on other disposable bags, this agreement represents a tremendous step forward.”

Lawmakers are facing a Monday deadline on a budget agreement. Negotiations on other aspects of Cuomo’s proposed $175 billion spending plan are continuing Friday, with the Senate and Assembly expected to start passing budget bills Sunday ahead of the April 1 start of the state’s 2019-2020 fiscal year.

Lawmakers have also agreed on a measure that would close two yet-to-be-determined state prisons. Cuomo announced last month he wanted to close three prisons because of the state’s declining inmate population.

Cuomo and lawmakers also have agreed to congestion tolls to ease traffic in the busiest parts of Manhattan and fund transit improvements, but details are still being discussed.

Negotiations are also continuing on a proposal to tax luxury second homes in Manhattan worth more than $5 million. One option would be similar to a traditional property tax and be paid annually; the other would be a one-time tax paid when the properties are sold.

Revenue from the tax would go to transit.

Other pending issues still being negotiated included criminal justice reform and public financing of political campaigns.

http://apnews.com/03a65c83343e44be87cb4d526fdd437e


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