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Obviously, I'm going to have to seal the edges somehow so that no air can get beneath them.

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We used to have a tarp over our firewood. Two, sometimes three, cords. We were lucky in that cement blocks held the tarps down. Seems like you need one of the following:

1) Cinder Block - they sell cinder blocks without the holes in them. If you lay them edge to edge, without any spaces at all, they should hold your tarp/s down.
Having a little (very little) experience with this method, I would suggest you SINK an inch or two of the cinder blocks, as a strong wind will move them;

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&;source=hp&biw=1366&bih=654&ei=OkuaXZn2OZD5-gTwqbPYDg&q=picture+of+cinderblocks&oq=picture+of+cinderblocks&gs_l=img.3...5839.20235..22551...0.0..0.108.1670.22j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0j0i10.alxr_BxMrDQ&ved=0ahUKEwiZ-7CzuYjlAhWQvJ4KHfDUDOsQ4dUDCAU&uact=5

2) 720 feet of edge: 720 feet, divided by 12 inches equals 60 cement blocks. Sometimes you can get cement blocks for $1.00 each, but not likely. You have to decide if this is the route you want to go.

DIRT FROM THE FOREST? You don't think this dirt is going to blow away? I do. They also sell dense cinder blocks, so no air can enter the tarp/s;

3) REBAR: did you think about rebar? Again, edge to edge, but it has to be thick enough to bury part of it.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&;source=hp&biw=1366&bih=654&ei=vkqaXceYKIH--gT45pjYDg&q=picture+of+rebar+steel&oq=picture+of+rebar&gs_l=img.1.1.0j0i24.50892.57248..64133...0.0..0.94.1128.16......0....1..gws-wiz-img.gDKTS_M5zYo

The advantage of this, imo, is that you can roll it a couple of inches in the Spring, and back on the tarp in the Fall. I forget what the tarps are for, dammit.

This looks interesting: COCHRANE STEEL. They look wide enough to keep the tarps down, and easy enough to put them end to end.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&;source=hp&biw=1366&bih=654&ei=vkqaXceYKIH--gT45pjYDg&q=picture+of+rebar+steel&oq=picture+of+rebar&gs_l=img.1.1.0j0i24.50892.57248..64133...0.0..0.94.1128.16......0....1..gws-wiz-img.gDKTS_M5zYo#imgrc=BFC1UxG1WFH55M:
Mad

4) This is my favorite and I think it will solve your problem:

How to Build a Backyard Hockey Rink

http://howtohockey.com/how-to-build-a-backyard-hockey-rink/

You only need WOOD. Inexpensive enough. You just need the proper tools.

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HockeyShot.com Backyard rink kit – You get the brackets and liner for a 20ft x 40ft rink, you will need to purchase boards (plywood can be used). The rink can be expanded later with more brackets and boards and a bigger liner. Use our coupon code HOWHCKY001 for $10 off
Nicerink.com – You can buy everything you need.

Hey, go for the free shovel!
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If you're going the cinder block route, here are some ideas:

http://www.doityourself.com/stry/how-to-lay-cinder-block-with-adhesive

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You don't have to pay for cinder blocks. You can STEAL them. No, seriously, we got some of ours from builders in the area who had left-overs. If it's free, it's for me.

Hope this was somewhat helpful. Regardless, I would ask NEMO, as this is his area of expertise.

Have a nice Sunday!


If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.


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Re: The Garden
By: Decomposed
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Sun, 06 Oct 19 3:40 PM
Msg. 41600 of 62138

Re: "I've laid out three 2,000 square foot plastic strips..."The problem with my plastic sheeting is one of holding it in place. If the wind gets beneath it, it has some serious lift.

The first test of this came on Friday. 15 mph winds were predicted, so I went out ahead of time and put wood pallets down on all the corners, laid some stones around the perimeter, and even parked the tractor across two of the sheets.

Friday morning, it didn't look too bad. By noon, the wind was beginning to whip. By 2 p.m., my wife saw that a corner of one of the strips had pulled loose from a pallet. I went out and fixed it, then saw that with every new gust, bubbles three feet high and ten feet across were forming in the sheets and running across them like things alive. Every time the bubbles reached the end of a sheet, they'd toss my 2 and 3 pound stones away like pebbles.

I spent two hours adding more and more to the plastic. By the time I was done, the wind was dying down and the plastic was being held - BARELY - by fourteen pallets, three panels of a TREX compost box, numerous lengthy boards, seven small boards on which I'd placed cinder blocks, several heavy floorboards (plywood-like sheets of pressed wood), as many stones as I could find and, of course, my tractor.

That was only 15 mph wind. It seems I've got a problem.

The issue is that no matter how many things I put on the edges, there are always gaps. Wind is able to get into them and inflate the sheets like balloons - at which point there's no quantity of weight that will hold them down. If the gusts had been two or three times what they were on Friday, I'd have lost those things! Obviously, I'm going to have to seal the edges somehow so that no air can get beneath them. A few hundred pounds of glue might do the trick - lol. Dirt from the forest is probably my best bet. The plastic only has 720 feet of edge... shouldn't take long, right? Heh. I'll need a lot of dirt. This is going to be a royal pain. At least the ground in the forest isn't frozen. I can still dig it up.


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