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"Live and learn, hydro. It isn't long-term obesity that I'm referring to, but plaque buildup that results in a heart attack or stroke, often triggered by "pigging out." You'll notice that the article below specifically mentions buffets. And it doesn't take a lot of them. Just one for a person whose arteries are in bad shape."

I stated "obesity and all of the associated complications/diseases" a general statement meaning someone in poor health and I did not list ALL potential underlying morbidity causes. You chose plaque buildup and with your health issues I can understand that. So what exactly are you attempting to have me live and learn?? That ONE buffet can trigger a heart attack?? OK that is perhaps true yet you are omitting the fact that 105 day shutdown is not the cause or cure for someone with plaque buildup. From your article ""The plaque that’s been forming has probably been forming for a long time," - a long time is not 105 days!! Underlying conditions like plaque buildup are not created short term - they are long term as pointed out in your article so thank you for making my point.
WebMD says plaque buildup occurs over years http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/cholesterol-and-artery-plaque-buildup

Again even by removing ALL traffic related deaths from 2020 the total American death rate is DOWN 35,000+/- year over year in what is supposed to be such a devastating pandemic??? That is highly illogical and 100% BS

Lastly you are either being obtuse or you do not see the glaring statistical manipulation in the chart you posted "Think is looks licked" in another message to Nemo.

The GLARING OMISSION in all of these charts is the number of people being tested. For simplicity lets say there is a 10% infection rate. So on day one we test 10 people then on day 2 we test 20 people then on day 3 30 people then 40 then 50 and so on and so on and guess what?? The positive tests will continue to increase because the number of people being tested are also increasing!!!

Post a chart that includes the TOTAL number of tests correlated with the results and that would be meaningful. I have yet to find such a chart because it would destroy this 'controlUSvirus' narrative being pushed. I found a partial table
and as testing increased so did cases yet tha last week testing increased and positive cases went down?
http://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/05012020/public-health-lab.html

2 million might have died and might still - pfffffttttt - and the number is lower because we destroyed the American, and Global economies by shutting them down and socially distancing worked so well that America reduced the death count by 45,000+/-?? Again - highly illogical.

Sorry DE but I do not believe in that kool aide you are drinking. Reminds me of the old saying that "Figures do not lie yet liars figure" and WE are all being lied to and the figures are all manipulated.

Coronavirus's have been around for thousands of years and are not going anywhere. People waiting on a vaccine are delusional as an effective one will never be created - it already has 30 known mutations. Even the Pirbright Institute (some may get the connection and see the hypocrisy) published a paper stating that there would never be an effective vaccine - granted that was in 2015 before they were awarded a coronavirus patent in 2018 yet that is another subject. IF we continue to react in this manner then we are indeed going to destroy global economies and we will have destroyed any global stability in an already fragile system, if we have not already done so. 235 million people are going to starve to death this year yet no global fear mongering and manipulation are being pushed by the media. Odd huh? At this pace we are indeed headed on a quick path to TEOTWAWKI

Time to reopen America or we can kiss our 244 year experimental government and way of life goodbye. Sadly it may already be too late......

PEACE

And this is a nurse from our capitol telling the truth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SB7mJsRvTI&

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Re: Covid-19 death chart
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Re: "You are attempting to attribute and promote a marginal decrease in morbidity between 2019 and 2020 due to a 105 day decrease in "pigging out at buffets" and we all know that specific problem, obesity and all of the associated complications/diseases, is a long term issue we are actually facing, right?"
Live and learn, hydro. It isn't long-term obesity that I'm referring to, but plaque buildup that results in a heart attack or stroke, often triggered by "pigging out." You'll notice that the article below specifically mentions buffets. And it doesn't take a lot of them. Just one for a person whose arteries are in bad shape.

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In fact, one study of almost 2,000 heart-attack patients suggested that a single act of overeating could quadruple the chance of having a heart attack on the same day."
- Consumer Reports


December 15, 2018

How to Avoid Holiday Heart Attack Risks

Controlling how much you eat and drink is essential if you have chronic conditions

by Consumer Reports


How bad can overeating at holiday time really be for your health?

Most people get away with seasonal overindulgence without significant harm to their health. But for those with risk factors such as heart disease or high cholesterol, overeating can set off more serious medical problems. And any weight gained as a result might not be so easy to take off.

In fact, both heart attacks and strokes tend to peak at this time of year. And during holiday time, Christmas Eve may carry the highest risk for a heart attack, followed by New Year's Day and Christmas Day—at least in Sweden, according to a large study published in The BMJ this week.

Researchers looked at the timing of 283,014 heart attacks that occurred in Sweden between 1998 and 2013. They found that in comparison to the two weeks before and after Christmas, heart-attack risks were 37 percent higher on Christmas Eve—the main day of celebration there—20 percent higher on New Year's Day, and 15 percent higher on Christmas Day.

Because this was an observational study, the authors drew no firm conclusions about cause and effect. But experts say that other research has provided clues about holiday heart hazards.

Cold weather and the physical exertion of seasonal chores like snow shoveling may be factors, but "dietary indiscretion, too much alcohol, and family stress all play a role," says John A. Osborne, M.D., Ph.D., director of preventative cardiology and lipidology at State of the Heart Cardiology in Dallas and a spokesman for the American Heart Association.

Overeating and Heart Risks
Experts say that if you have coronary heart disease or are at risk for it, overeating (a big Christmas dinner can top 5,000 calories) can have dangerous consequences.

In fact, one study of almost 2,000 heart-attack patients suggested that a single act of overeating could quadruple the chance of having a heart attack on the same day.

"The plaque that’s been forming has probably been forming for a long time," says Osborne. "But this could be the final trigger."

How? An unusually large meal can cause levels of triglycerides—a type of blood fat—to rise significantly, bringing inflammation that can lead to a heart attack.

And so-called holiday-heart syndrome, marked by the abnormal heart rhythm of atrial fibrillation, or A-fib, can be brought on by overconsumption of alcohol. A-fib can cause a stroke, heart failure, and other heart problems.

Other Health Effects of Overeating
Here’s what else can happen when you stuff yourself, and how to handle the problems that crop up:

You may experience heartburn, which occurs when acidic gastric juices reflux into the delicate tissues of the esophagus. This can last for hours, though an over-the-counter antacid such as Tums may provide relief.

If you have gas and diarrhea after a sizable feast, try some bismuth subsalicylate (Pepto-Bismol and generic)—or just wait for it to work its way out, as it were.

The fat in your feast can also precipitate gall-bladder attacks. And if you’re susceptible to gout, the painful buildup of uric-acid crystals in your joints, go easy on alcohol and red meat. An overload of salty appetizers can result in swollen ankles for a few days.

Have a Healthier Holiday
Most of us can’t make it through a whole season of holiday parties without splurging a little. Here are a few ways to control your holiday food and drink intake:

• Avoid going to a festive meal feeling famished. Eat a high-protein snack before, such as a slice of cheese, to take the edge off your hunger.
Be choosy about your hors d’oeuvres. Skip anything fried.

• Eat slowly. Swallow each mouthful before taking the next and chat with a table mate between bites. Slow eaters tend to eat less food.

• At a party buffet? Position yourself as far away from the table as you can.

• Be mindful of alcohol. Binge drinking is usually associated with holiday heart syndrome, but the amount it takes to bring on an episode of A-fib varies from person to person, according to Osborne. "Some people can be very sensitive," he notes. "I've seen people have two to three drinks, and that can precipitate A-fib in them." Tip: At holiday gatherings, have a glass of sparkling water with a splash of cranberry juice between alcoholic drinks. It will seem festive and help you control your alcohol consumption.

• Increase your regular exercise schedule to burn off some of those excess calories.

• It's also important to reduce holiday stress, says Osborne. Stress can lead you to make poor eating choices. And mounting research suggests that difficult situations—arguments with relatives, for instance—can cause a surge in stress hormones that can damage your heart or lead to a heart attack (a condition known as broken heart syndrome, or Takotsubo syndrome).

• Finally, if you end up overdoing it one night, don’t use it as an excuse to blow the rest of the season. Simply get back to your usual (and better) habits the next morning.

http://www.consumerreports.org/heart-attack/big-holiday-meal-can-trigger-a-heart-attack/


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