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By: Beldin in 6TH POPE | Recommend this post (3)
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Kathy,

You need to try both single-action and double-action semi-automatic pistols when you go to the range. Have your instructor point out the differences and then experience the differences for yourself to see which works best for you.

Single-action advantage: Much lighter trigger pull that usually makes for a much more accurate shot. But, with single-actions, the hammer is cocked back, so you will necessarily have a safety to contend with before you can shoot. Disengaging the safety quickly and properly becomes second-nature with practice.

Double-action advantage: No need to disengage a safety, first, so it is quicker to fire by a few nano-seconds. But, the trigger pull is longer and harder, which can cause accuracy to suffer. Some double-actions have a long trigger pull on the first shot and then effectively become single-action on the subsequent shots because the hammer has been cocked by the first shot. Some double-actions are always double-action and they are often referred to as "striker-fired pistols."

Here is a highly summarized discussion you might find useful ... 

The Difference in Single Action & Double Action Semi-Automatics

http://goneoutdoors.com/difference-action-double-action-revolvers-8043832.html

Don't let the wording in the website link confuse you ... this isn't about "revolvers" ... it's about semi-automatics. Don't know why these idiots made that bonehead mistake. 

All semi-automatic firearms perform the same three functions after you pull the trigger: the gun fires, the spent cartridge ejects and the next cartridge loads into the chamber. The additional elements of semi-automatic operation differ according to whether the firearm is single-action or double-action. Early semi-automatic pistols such as the Luger and the Colt Model 1911 were entirely single-action. The German Walther, introduced in the late 1920s, was the first double-action model. The Walther was a police model and, in the years since, many officers have used double-action, semi-auto pistols as duty weapons for law enforcement.

Single Action
In a single action semi-automatic pistol, once you insert the magazine and cock the hammer, the action of pulling the trigger performs just one function: releasing the hammer to fire the weapon. Recocking the hammer for the next shot is automatically performed by the operating mechanism. Thus, the pistol is fully ready to fire the next shot with another single-action pull of the trigger to release the hammer. Since the trigger pull performs just a single function, the trigger pull on a single action firearm is light and short.

Double Action
In double-action operation, pulling the trigger performs more than a single function. After the first shot in a double-action only firearm, the mechanism ejects the spent cartridge and chambers the next round, but does not cock the hammer back. The hammer remains in the down position. When the shooter pulls the trigger for the next shot, the trigger mechanism performs the dual action of pushing the hammer back to the cocked position, then releasing it to fire the shot. Because the trigger mechanism performs two functions, the trigger pull on a single-action firearm is long and heavy. Some police model double-action pistols have a 15-pound trigger pull.

Single Action Safety
Since the hammer is cocked when the slide chambers the first round, and again after every shot, loaded single action semi-automatics may be only a short, light trigger pull away from accidental discharge. For safety, either carry the weapon with no round chambered, necessitating operating the slide to make it fire-ready, or it must utilize external safeties for "cocked and locked" carry. Most single-action safeties function by blocking the hammer so it will not fall if the trigger is pulled or by blocking the trigger itself. Alternatively, many have decocking levers to safely lower the hammer from the cocked position for carry, requiring manually recocking to fire.

Double Action Safety
Because double action semi-automatics do not cock the hammer, the weapon is not as prone to inadvertent discharge, so safeties are not as necessary. Many double-action semi-automatics designed for law enforcement or military service employ no external safety. The long, multi-pound trigger pull of the double- action mechanism serves as its primary safety, in addition to internal safeties to guard against accidental discharge if you drop the weapon.

Speed Versus Accuracy
When carried safely, single-action semi-autos require the safety to be disengaged before they can be fired. Since double-action pistols can be carried without an external safety that needs to be disengaged, double- action firearms are considered to be faster on the first shot. On the other hand, the shorter, lighter trigger pull of a single-action mechanism is more conducive to steady aim and accuracy than the long, heavy trigger pull of a double-action. There's a saying: a single-action wins marksmanship trophies but double-action wins gunfights.




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MICRO (and beldin) - GUNS
By: kathy_s16
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Wed, 03 Mar 21 5:03 PM
Msg. 13515 of 58582

might I suggest and ask sir beldin for your sake if perhaps a single action handgun would be the best choice for you as it does not require a hevy first pull, squeeze, of the trigger and thus, the amount of squeeze would be the same every shot. Also does not reqire you to cock the hammer either. Get a gun that does not have a hamer to cock.....

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Thank you for the input, micro. Just so beldin doesn't feel lonely, I don't understand what you're saying, either.

BELDIN, what say you? I do want the easiest gun I can get. I'm gathering information in prep/ for Monday's shoot.

Thank you, micro!


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