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Re: WAY OLD NEWS DUHHHHHHHHHHHH Family of Brit Killed on 9/11 Presents Gov't With 3,000 Pages of Evidence 'Towers Blown Up from Inside' 

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Re: “I'm having a hard time believing NOBODY would have noticed guys digging away the insulations”
That was covered by the investigation that was done 15 or so years ago. TPTB concluded that the initial blasts blew the insulation off of the primary supports. That insulation was there to protect against FIRE, not against an explosion. Once the insulation was gone, intense heat from the burning of jetliner fuel was easily enough to warp the supports and bring down the buildings.

Is that believable? According to www.911research.wtc7.net, steel melts at a temperature of 2,777 degrees Fahrenheit, but jet fuel burns at only 1,517 degrees F. No melted steel, no collapsed towers.

The finding is bogus!

Well, no, it's not:


In an article in the Journal of the Minerals, Metals, and Materials Society and in subsequent interviews, Thomas Eagar, an engineering professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, explains why: steel loses 50 percent of its strength at 1,200 degrees F; 90,000 liters of jet fuel ignited other combustible materials such as rugs, curtains, furniture and paper, which continued burning after the jet fuel was exhausted, raising temperatures above 1,400 degrees F and spreading the inferno throughout each building. Temperature differentials of hundreds of degrees across single steel horizontal trusses caused them to sag--straining and then breaking the angle clips that held the beams to the vertical columns. Once one truss failed, others followed. When one floor collapsed onto the next floor below, that floor subsequently gave way, creating a pancaking effect that triggered each 500,000-ton structure to crumble.

THAT, I think, is the best explanation we're apt to come up with for what brought WTC 1 and 2 down.

As for WTC Building 7, falling debris started fires on ten floors. Sprinklers were disabled by broken water mains from the earlier collapses. Heat caused floors to collapse, and the opened space led to the eventual failure of the vertical supports. No videos or witnesses heard any explosives, and they would have since explosions of that sort top 130db and are recordable a half mile away.

The one thing I'm not finding is 'How hot did it get in WTC 7?' Based on my earlier statements, it presumably topped 1,200° since that's where steel loses so much of its integrity. But without jet fuel, would it have?

All I'm finding on that subject is 'The heat from the uncontrolled fires caused steel floor beams and girders to thermally expand' ... and ... 'Eventually, a girder on Floor 13 lost its connection to a critical column, Column 79, that provided support for the long floor spans on the east side of the building.' I guess that's what did it - but maybe one of you can dig further. I have to head over to the barn now, so I'm not going spend any time on this.




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Re: WAY OLD NEWS DUHHHHHHHHHHHH Family of Brit Killed on 9/11 Presents Gov't With 3,000 Pages of Evidence 'Towers Blown Up from Inside'
By: Zimbler0
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Mon, 06 Sep 21 4:55 PM
Msg. 23375 of 60008

Micro > Common fire is not going to collapse a superstructure like the Trade center Towers..


So, tell me Boss. What would you call the fire from a thousand tons or so of jet fuel burning inside the Trade Center Towers?

And while I suppose it is possible to plant explosives and bring down the Towers . . . I'm having a hard time believing NOBODY would have noticed guys digging away the insulations and other materials necessary to reach the structural supports and plant explosives on them.

Given all the witnesses and videos of airplanes flying into the Towers . . . .

Lastly, what was the motivation?


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