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Re: The things I like about this place . . .

By: Zimbler0 in 6TH POPE | Recommend this post (0)
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Zim : If one wants me to believe the government toppled the twin towers on 9-11 there two major factors that will have to be addressed. The first and most obvious – there is no doubt two jet-liners were flown into the world trade center on 9-11. Why couldn't the carnage inflicted have brought down the building?

Micro > Would you believe it when Doctoral engineers tell you that the jet fuel fire was not the cause because there is not enough direct combustion nor heat to cause all the rest of the suporting structure underneath it to give way like it did???

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Are we supposed to be letting this go?

Micro > I noticed that you did not apologize either me or Nemo, for your insulting demeanor.

I'm not sure where my 'demeanor' was
insulting enough to require an apology . ..
And I certainly don't remember you saying
anything that might require an apology from you.

Honestly, I thought we was having a disagreement
and we was trying to provide evidence that
might buttress our own cases, and point out
how the other guys case was weak. Isn't that
what a 'debate' is all about?

Now.

In your second paragraph above you asked about 'Doctoral Engineers'. I know we got 'Scientists' who fervently believe in the 'man-made global warming'. I know that certain 'Scientists' have been manipulating and 'adjusting' temperature records. So, I have no problem being skeptical about 'Doctoral Engineers' whose words make no sense to me.

'Somebody' posted an article which claimed that the burning jet fuel could not have caused the collapse because it doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel. Any 'Engineer' that claims that is worthy of contempt. Why? Because it is my belief that any reasonably educated person ought to know that one does not need to melt steel in order to bend it. Take a steel rod. I can't bend it. Heat the middle of it up to cherry red and I can bend it like a pretzel. (Or am I wrong to believe that?)

Oh, "not enough direct combustion nor heat to cause" . . . As I recall, the airplane knocked an airplane sized hole in the side of the building going in . . . and I think it also knocked a smaller hole out the other side. I'm pretty sure there was enough air getting in there for the jet fuel to burn. (Wasn't there also smoke coming out of the building?)

Addressing the 'explosives were used to bring down the World Trade Center' . . . How many companies are capable of doing the deed and which one did it? Trot out evidence of who and how they did it and I'll be happy to contemplate the possibility . . . But I would hope that NO professional building demolitions company would willingly wire up a building for demolition while people was still in it. I should not have to say this, but only a professional demolition company could have brought down the WTC in the manner that it fell. And I don't think there are more than a handful who could have done it.

Zim.




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Re: The things I like about this place . . .
By: micro
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Tue, 14 Sep 21 2:44 PM
Msg. 23900 of 60008

ZIM

In your poist a the end you said

If one wants me to believe the government toppled the twin towers on 9-11 there two major factors that will have to be addressed. The first and most obvious – there is no doubt two jet-liners were flown into the world trade center on 9-11. Why couldn't the carnage inflicted have brought down the building? 

Would you believe it when Doctoral engineers tell you that the jet fuel fire was not the cause because there is not enough direct combustion nor heat to cause all the rest of the suporting structure underneath it to give way like it did???

The reason I ask is because you are convincced in your own mind that is the reason it gave way, a jet fuel fire.

There has always been lots of doubt about that by various neutral professionals but like everything else, the noise to suppress those who queston such things is simply not worth the effort of trying to shout over it and apparently reason and engineers who know don't count.

So, if you want to be entitled to your opinion and not get harassed over it, told you are a conspiracy theorist believer, like I basically was, and apaprently my lifetine of working on various imprtant things for the government and military with my education and knowledge not aeeming to matter at all, now ya know how it feels.

I was disrespected on this board big time by more than just yourself.

I STATED in my posts NUMEROUS TIMES that you all can certainly believe whatever you think is right, please allow me the same opportunity as you want and desire instead of trying to paint me as some kind of kook who doesn't have a clue what they heck I am speaking of or wanting to take a look at to read the research papers and evidence and decide for myself what I think..

Methinks forty plus years of higher level engineering work and continuing to do that today as a consultant to some fortune 500 companies pretty welll means that I do have some shred of competency especially in my chosen field of practice..

SO, if thisis your idea of letting it drop, please know that the backhanded slap was not overlooked.

I APOLOGIZED to you already THAT MEANS LET IT GO.

I noticed that you did not apologize either me or Nemo, for your insulting demeanor.

I generally don't respond like this but you are pushing the linmits of my patience.

AND NOW a word for those of you who think this is STAR WORTHY.

GET A LIFE.

If you revel in and think after trying to make things right and get past a tirade like this one which basically slams yet again a differing view, after claiming that HE wants to have his own viepoint without getting slammed , like he has done to me and has done it again, then that basically tells me that you are are also are INTOLERANT and haven't the honest intellect to allow someone else to see something differently than you do.

Honestly guys, the fire on the tower is a analytical job best left to the real doctoral structural engineers who KNOW what the hell they are talking about.

THOSE are tyhe opinions from over a year of daily research and application of standards and known data that I WANT to see.

IT IS OKAY IF YOU do not want to. PLEASE LET ME DESIRE to do so without your CONDESCENDING BS ATTITUDES because you choose to believe whatever comes out of George Bush's mouth or his suboordinates.

THANKS a million ZIM for NOT dropping it..

I do not appreciated the back handed bitch slap you just took.. SO if you want to continue lets do this.


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