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29743 Re: Watching this Ukraine Thingy on TV
   Fizzy > 4.0 Anyone who has been to eastern Ukraine has known that the... 		Zimbler0   6TH POPE   27 Feb 2022
 2:42 AM
29736 Re: Watching this Ukraine Thingy on TV
   ...I am a 77 year old half duplex analog circuit. One question at a ti... 		ribit   6TH POPE   27 Feb 2022
 12:32 AM

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Re: Watching this Ukraine Thingy on TV

By: fizzy in 6TH POPE
Sun, 27 Feb 22 12:15 AM
Msg. 29734 of 60008
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Oh my. I had forgotten I need to dodge your long tongue!

What part of what I wrote do you particularly disagree with? That was intended as a reasonably thoughtful, if brief, response to your previous message.

I don't disagree with your assertion that this is a world war. I AM saying (among some other things:
1.0 The real war was already started.
2.0 We were attacked by "enemies domestic" a good while ago.
3.0 The virus, and probably the vaccines, were crafted weapons. We have yet to see anywhere near the full extent of the damage. Give it a little more time.
4.0 Anyone who has been to eastern Ukraine has known that the population there is overwhelmingly Russian. And that the Russians in those areas are distinct from, and poorly represented by, the Ukrainian (Slavic) government to the west.
5.0 Russia allowing NATO, or US arms, to infiltrate Ukraine would allow a gun muzzle to be put to the head of Russia. Just look at a map and read a little history.
6.0 Russia and China have historically gone together like oil and water: ethnically, socially, religiously, linguistically, philosophically, etc. Russia is European and China is ... well about as alien to Western values and comprehension as real space aliens might be.
7.0 In spite of this, TPTB in US and Europe FORCED Russia and China together -- AFTER exporting all our leading technology to China. I think I even wrote about that before I left 11 years ago. "We exchanged our factories for their problems" I have been saying since around 2000.

There are probably few other things I was attempting to assert in my previous post. I'm saying Ukraine isn't THAT monumental in the full scope of our problems, so it won't go down as the start of a World War -- unless it is the other side that writes the history books. We have been under attack for some time with a LOT of assistance from "enemies domestic".

I was hoping you would actually string some paragraphs together, instead of just a few one-liners, and give your positions on my bullet ppints...and, if you disagree, WHY you disagree?

I'm also guessing you found something I said offensive on some level? What was that? My extrapolations may be wrong but the facts are pretty much all indisputable at the level of facts. So, you may not appreciate the way I fit the pieces I could find of jigsaw puzzle together. Can you do better with the existing pieces; or do you have a few other pieces you've found laying about?

The US is in an unbelievable mess. And can we agree it probably didn't all happen by "mistake" nor "coincidence"? When you see a whole bunch of "mistakes" all centered around the bullseye on a target, its probably ...wise.... to presume they weren't mistakes, and give the folks standing behind you, or in the background, maybe a little more benefit of the doubt?
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I want to be clear, I'm not trying to get off on a bad footing with anyone here. My apologies if I ought not to have spoken so directly; I was interested in how you came to your conclusion that the Russian take over of the eastern ETHNIC RUSSIAN regions of Ukraine was the start of WW3. I suppose it is possible that, because it is so physically hard to ignore it will spiral into something more profound. But I just see it as another fairly minor "pawn takes pawn" chess more in a game, within a tournament, that has been going on for a while.

Doubtless my thinking has gotten more cynical than it was 11+ years ago. However, I also think it has gotten a lot more fact based.

I have come to realize that men are not born to be free. Liberty is a need felt by a small class of people whom nature has endowed with nobler minds than the mass of men. -Napoleon