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Re: “I call into question your assertion "Putin has a murderer's mentality. We know that from his past acts." What are these "acts", specifically. And where is your PROOF." ... "Now, I don't have any doubt he is WILLING to have people die: can you name a single recent US President, other than maybe Jimmy Carter, who WASN'T”Don't change the subject in order to try to make what I said sound wrong. I said nothing about U.S. Presidents. They are absolutely irrelevant to the discussion.


March 11, 2016

Here’s a list of Putin critics who've ended up dead

by Jeremy Wilson
BusinessInsider.com

The Washington DC medical examiner's office has just confirmed that former Russian press minister Mikhail Lesin died of "blunt force trauma to the head."Lesin, who founded the English-language television network Russia Today (RT) was found dead in a Washington, DC, hotel room in November 2015.

The Daily Beast reports that before his death, Lesin was considering making a deal with the FBI to protect himself from corruption charges.

For years, Lesin had been at the heart of political life in Russia and would have known a lot about the inner workings of the rich and powerful.

Lesin isn't the only person linked to Putin's government that has died in violent or mysterious circumstances. Here are some of the other people Putin — a former lieutenant colonel of the KGB, and ex-head of the FSB — is suspected of assassinating:

Alexander Litvinenko



Alexander Litvinenko was a former KGB agent who died three weeks after drinking a cup of tea at a London hotel that had been laced with deadly polonium-210.A British inquiry found that Litvinenko was poisoned by FSB agents Andrei Lugovoi and Dmitry Kovtun, who were acting on orders that had "probably approved by Mr Patrushev and also by President Putin."

Litvinenko was very critical of Putin, accusing him of, among other things, blowing up an apartment block and ordering the murder of journalist Anna Politkovskaya.

Anna Politkovskaya

Anna Politkovskaya was a Russian journalist who was critical of Putin. In her book "Putin's Russia," she accused Putin of turning his country into a police state. She was murdered by contract killers who shot her at point blank range in the lift outside her flat.

Five men were convicted of her murder, but the judge found that it was a contract killing, with $150,000 paid by "a person unknown."



Natalia Estemirova

Natalia Estemirova was a journalist who sometimes worked with Politkovskaya.

She specialised in uncovering human-rights abuses carried out by the Russian state in Chechnya.

She was abducted from outside her home and later found in nearby woodland with gunshot wounds to he head. No one has been convicted of her murder.

Stanislav Markelov and Anastasia Baburova

Human-rights lawyer Stanislav Markelov represented Politkovskaya and other journalists who had been critical of Putin.

He was shot by a masked gunman near the Kremlin. Journalist Anastasia Baburova, who was walking with him, was also shot when she tried to help him.



Boris Nemtsov

Boris Nemtsov was a former deputy prime minister of Russia under Boris Yeltsin who went on to become a big critic of Putin — accusing him of being in the pay of oligarchs.

He was shot four times in the back just yards from the Kremlin as he walked home from a restaurant. Despite Putin taking "personal control" of the investigation into Nemtsov's murder, the killer has not been found.

Boris Berezovsky

Boris Berezovsky was a Russian oligarch who fled to Britain after he fell out with Putin. During his exile he threatened to bring down Putin by force. He was found dead at his Berkshire home in March 2013 in an apparent suicide, although an inquest into his death recorded an open verdict.

Berezovsky was found dead inside a locked bathroom with a ligature around his neck. The coroner couldn't explain how he had died.

The British police had on several occasions investigated alleged assassination attempts against him.


Paul Klebnikov

Paul Klebnikov was the chief editor of the Russian edition of Forbes. He had written about corruption and dug into the lives of wealthy Russians.

He was killed in a drive-by shooting in an apparent contract killing.

Sergei Yushenkov

Sergei Yushenkov was a Russian politician who was attempting to prove the Russian state was behind the bombing of an apartment block.

He was killed in an assassination by a single shot to the chest just hours after his political organisation, Liberal Russia, had been recognised by the Justice Ministry as a party.

http://www.businessinsider.com/list-of-people-putin-is-suspected-of-assassinating-2016-3?IR=T




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Re: Thousands of Mariupol residents ‘forcibly’ taken to Russian camps: reports
By: fizzy in 6TH POPE
Sun, 20 Mar 22 8:14 PM 		Msg. 30589 of 60008

De,

I call into question your assertion "Putin has a murderer's mentality. We know that from his past acts." What are these "acts", specifically. And where is your PROOF. I hope you aren't going to point to, effectively, the same mainstream media and "trusted gubermint" sources you generally decry almost as much as I do?


Now, I don't have any doubt he is WILLING to have people die: can you name a single recent US President, other than maybe Jimmy Carter, who WASN'T willing to have innocents die in the line of carrying out executive duties for some "higher" patriotic ideal?

Trump? He killed plenty of people -- including collateral damage civilians -- while in office. And he was the most peaceable President we've had in decades. And, don't forget he COULD have pardoned Snowden or otherwise have done something to allow Snowden to get the fair, public trial in the US that Snowden has said he would be willing to face. But he didn't.

Biden? Well we know he is okay with rape. And we sure know how enthusiatic he was about killing brown people, even children, in foreign lands.

Hillary? Don't make us both laugh.

Obamba? Have you SEEN the excitement he and Hillary displayed as the watched other people execute Osama? And, I'm sure you know, he okayed widespread use of drones to kill civilians in Iraq and other places. He was even on record in favor of executing US citizens by drone without trial...provided "the government" said they were guilty (without trial).

Bush and Cheney? How many tens of thousands of civilitians, including children, did THEY demonstrate a willinginess...even an enthusiasm ... to kill... Anything for oil and money and power.

Clinton? Well, I reapeat myself.

Bush Senior? Really? The guy who headed the CIA and the multi-generational Bush crime family?

Reagan? Really? How ill informed are you? https://jacobinmag.com/2021/05/greg-grandin-empires-workshop-latin-america

Is Putin willing to kill people? Doubtless -- or I don't think he could have survived the USSR; shut down the Russian mafia which ran things post USSR; fought off US/European Banksters and Empire puppeteers who wanted to make Russia another US vassal state post USSR; etc.

But you seem to have an awful lot of righteous anger on display about Putin, without any real good evidence he is particularly monstrous, by "normal" standards of what passes for "normal government by the people" these days....

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