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Re: Thousands of Mariupol residents 'forcibly' taken to Russian camps: reports

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De,

I agree with you. Further, I think Putin would accept a reasonable compromise which basically the breakaway regions of RUSSIANS their own country and committed Ukraine to staying out of the war business.

NO territorial gains for Russia should also be part of this. I don't think Ukraine actually needs to acknowledge Crimea as part of Russia; they just need to agree to stay out of the war business. Crimea IS effectively 100% Russian, and the people like it that way. Possession is 9/10ths of the law -- God knows the US STOLE basically all the land it currently claims under this principle.

As others have pointed out, once there is a negotiated settlement between Ukraine and Russia, pretty near all the sanctions have no standing.

--This would save Putin face.

--It would serve the best interests of the actual Ukrainian people (those who WANT to speak Ukrainian and follow Ukrainian cultural norms).

-It would save Biden face; he can brag about how it was only his teams' tough love which made the difference. And only Russia that was responsible for gas and food prices going up.

It's pretty simple. I know it won't give the Rothschild's everything they wanted, I guess. Other than that, what's the problem?

THEN we can find out what's awaiting us behind door number 3 (can hardly wait). You can be sure Our Master's have something exciting planned, and it will be rolling in within weeks of any truce in Ukraine. Got to keep the drama going and "useless eaters" distracted from the main attraction.


I have come to realize that men are not born to be free. Liberty is a need felt by a small class of people whom nature has endowed with nobler minds than the mass of men. -Napoleon


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Re: Thousands of Mariupol residents 'forcibly' taken to Russian camps: reports
By: Decomposed
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Mon, 21 Mar 22 5:12 AM
Msg. 30608 of 60008

ribit:

Re: “...it might result in a nuclear war and it might not. Ya never know about these things.”
If Putin either had his butt handed to him by NATO forces or tucked tail and ran, he would appear weak. Somebody or bodies in Russia would then go after him. One way or another, the man would end up dead. He knows that. He therefore cannot afford to be seen as weak.

While I don't pretend to know what's going to happen, I can tell you what won't happen. Putin won't back down before western forces. And if he's losing a conventional war, he'll employ nukes. About the only way around that would be if somebody assassinates Putin.






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