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Fizzy > Further, I think Putin would accept a reasonable compromise

Personally, I don't think what Putin would consider a 'reasonable compromise' would be acceptable to any sane peoples.

As for Crimea - Allowing Putin to keep it is also unacceptable (to me). I would not mind seeing Crimea become an 'independent country' for a year then have the populace of Crimea vote whether or not they want to be :
.... 1.) Re-united with Ukraine.
.... 2.) Re-united with Russia.
.... 3.) Or remain a new independent country.

And I don't care about Putin 'saving face'. I want his face drug through the mud till he recognizes that such barbarous behavior as he has been indulging in is not acceptable to the rest of the civilized world.

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Re: Thousands of Mariupol residents 'forcibly' taken to Russian camps: reports
By: fizzy
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Mon, 21 Mar 22 5:42 AM
Msg. 30611 of 60008

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I agree with you. Further, I think Putin would accept a reasonable compromise which basically the breakaway regions of RUSSIANS their own country and committed Ukraine to staying out of the war business.

NO territorial gains for Russia should also be part of this. I don't think Ukraine actually needs to acknowledge Crimea as part of Russia; they just need to agree to stay out of the war business. Crimea IS effectively 100% Russian, and the people like it that way. Possession is 9/10ths of the law -- God knows the US STOLE basically all the land it currently claims under this principle.

As others have pointed out, once there is a negotiated settlement between Ukraine and Russia, pretty near all the sanctions have no standing.

--This would save Putin face.

--It would serve the best interests of the actual Ukrainian people (those who WANT to speak Ukrainian and follow Ukrainian cultural norms).

-It would save Biden face; he can brag about how it was only his teams' tough love which made the difference. And only Russia that was responsible for gas and food prices going up.

It's pretty simple. I know it won't give the Rothschild's everything they wanted, I guess. Other than that, what's the problem?

THEN we can find out what's awaiting us behind door number 3 (can hardly wait). You can be sure Our Master's have something exciting planned, and it will be rolling in within weeks of any truce in Ukraine. Got to keep the drama going and "useless eaters" distracted from the main attraction.


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