Msg. 31976 of 60008 (This msg. is a reply to
31973 by
Decomposed)
Jump:
it's shocking and mind blowing that this kind of thing goes on as normal practice in the world.. I cannot even fathom the depths of baseness it requires to do such a thing to another human being..
Criminal or not they are still GOD'S creation and HE still has an interest in them. The fine folks murdering these people will answer to HIM one day for what they have done..
And they will be punished accordingly..
April 8, 2022 -- Researchers from Australia and Israel have found evidence of forced organ harvesting in China on people who were not first declared brain dead.
Searching for documentation that organs people need to live are being harvested from executed prisoners who did not give their permission -- a practice that the China Tribunal confirmed “beyond any reasonable doubt” in 2020 -- Jacob Lavee, MD, an Israeli heart transplant surgeon, and Matthew Robertson, a PhD student at Australian National University, uncovered something even more shocking: that organs are being taken from patients who are still alive.
The paper “bring[s] attention to an enormous human rights violation,” says Arthur Caplan, PhD, Head of the Division of Medical Ethics at New York University's Grossman School of Medicine. “What they’ve reported has been going on for many, many, years. The data is very clear that China’s doing many more transplants than they have cadaver organ donors,” he says.
The research, published in the American Journal of Transplantation, involved detailed analysis of thousands of Chinese language papers describing transplants. It identified 71 papers in which transplant surgeons describe starting organ procurement surgery before declaring their patients brain dead.
“What we found were improper, illegitimate, non-existent or false declarations of brain death,” says Robertson, explaining this violates what’s known as the Dead Donor Rule, which is fundamental in transplant ethics.
“The surgeons wrote that the donor was brain dead, but according to everything we know about medical science they could not possibly have been brain dead because there was no apnea test performed,” says Robertson, referring to a test that determines if the brain stem is active.
Robertson and Lavee have painstakingly documented “incriminating sentences” in each of the 71 papers, proving that brain death had not occurred before the procedure to remove organs began.
“There were two criteria by which we claimed a problematic brain death declaration,” says Robertson, who translated the Chinese. “One was where the patient was not ventilated and was only intubated after they were declared brain dead, the other was that the intubation took place immediately prior to the surgery beginning.”
“We have shown for the first time that the transplant surgeons are the executioners — that the mode of execution is organ procurement. These are self-admissions of executing the patient,” says Lavee, from Tel Aviv University.
“It was mind-boggling,” he says. “But the more of these papers we read, we saw it was a pattern…And they didn’t come out of a single medical center, they are spread all over China.”
For the analysis, Robertson scrutinized 124,770 medical papers from official Chinese databases between 1980 and 2020. The 71 papers revealing problematic brain death came from 56 hospitals (of which 12 were military) in 33 cities across 15 provinces, they reported. In total, 348 surgeons, nurses, anesthesiologists, and other medical workers or researchers were listed as authors on these publications.
Why would these medical workers publish such self-incriminating evidence? The researchers say it’s unclear. “They don’t think anyone’s reading this stuff,” Robertson suggests. “Sometimes it’s revealed in just five or six characters in a paper of 8 pages.”
NYU’s Caplan added that China’s well-documented and lucrative involvement in transplant tourism “means you have to have a donor ready when the would-be recipient appears, you have to have a matched organ available, and that’s hard to do waiting on a cadaver donor.”
Caplan and the researchers have called for academic institutions and medical journals to resume their previous boycotts of Chinese transplant publications and speakers, but as long as China denies the practices, economic and political leaders will turn a blind eye.
"In the past, I don't think the question of China’s medical professional involvement in the execution of donors has been taken as seriously as it should have,” says Robertson. “I certainly hope that with the publication o this paper in the leading journal in the field, this will change."
DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS WEBSITE!
The reader is responsible for discerning the validity, factuality or implications of information posted here, be it fictional or based on real events. Moderators on this forum make every effort to review the material posted on this site however, it is not realistically possible for a one man team to manually review each and every one of the posts atomicbobs.com gets on a daily basis.
The content of posts on this site, including but not limited to links to other web sites, are the expressed opinion of the original poster and are in no way representative of or endorsed by the owners or administration of this website. The posts on this website are the opinion of the specific author and are not statements of advice, opinion, or factual information on behalf of the owner or administration of Atomicbobs. This site may contain adult language, if you feel you might be offended by such content, you should log off immediately.
Not all posts on this website are intended as truthful or factual assertion by their authors. Some users of this website are participating in internet role playing, with or without the use of an avatar. NO post on this website should be considered factual information on face value alone. Users are encouraged to
USE DISCERNMENT
and do their own follow up research while reading and posting on this website. Atomicbobs.com reserves the right to make changes to, corrections and/or remove entirely at any time posts made on this website without notice. In addition, Atomicbobs.com disclaims any and all liability for damages incurred directly or indirectly as a result of a post on this website.
This website implements certain security features in order to prevent spam and posting abuse. By making a post on this website you consent to any automated security checks required by our system to authenticate your IP address as belonging to an actual human. It is forbidden to make posts on this website from open proxy servers. By making a post on this website you consent to an automated one time limited port scan of your IP address which is required by our security system to validate the authenticity of your internet connection.
This site is provided "as is" without warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied. You should not assume that this site is error-free or that it will be suitable for the particular purpose which you have in mind when using it. In no event shall Atomicbobs.com be liable for any special, incidental, indirect or consequential damages of any kind, or any damages whatsoever, including, without limitation, those resulting from loss of use, data or profits, whether or not advised of the possibility of damage, and on any theory of liability, arising out of or in connection with the use or performance of this site or other documents which are referenced by or linked to this site.
Some events depicted in certain posting and threads on this website may be fictitious and any similarity to any person living or dead is merely coincidental. Some other articles may be based on actual events but which in certain cases incidents, characters and timelines have been changed for dramatic purposes. Certain characters may be composites, or entirely fictitious.
We do not discriminate against the mentally ill!
Fair Use Notice:
This site may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Users may make such material available in an effort to advance awareness and understanding of issues relating to civil rights, economics, individual rights, international affairs, liberty, science & technology, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law.
At some point freedom of speech and copyright law merge. The following interpretation of "Fair Use" and subsequent posting policy were developed with the assistance of qualified legal council however, we are not lawyers and cannot offer you legal advise as to the limits of "Fair Use"
In accordance with industry accepted best practices we ask that users limit their copy / paste of copyrighted material to the relevant portions of the article you wish to discuss and no more than 50% of the source material, provide a link back to the original article and provide your original comments / criticism in your post with the article.
Though legally each situation is evaluated independently according to guidelines that were intentionally left open to interpretation, we believe generally this policy represents "Fair Use" of any such copyrighted material for the purposes of education and discussion.
You are responsible for what you "publish" on the internet. You must be sure any copyrighted material you choose to post for discussion on this forum falls within the limits of "Fair Use" as defined by the law.
If you are a legal copyright holder or a designated agent for such and you believe a post on this website falls outside the boundaries of "Fair Use" and legitimately infringes on yours or your clients copyright
we may be contacted concerning copyright matters at:
If you require a courier address please send a fax or email and we will provide you with the required information.
For expedited human review & removal of potential copyright violations we encourage users & copyright holders to utilize the "Report Copyright Violation" button that accompanies each post published on this website.
In accordance with section 512 of the U.S. Copyright Act our contact information has been registered with the United States Copyright Office. "Safe Harbor" noticing procedures as outlined in the DMCA apply to this website concerning all 3rd party posts published herein.
If notice is given of an alleged copyright violation we will act expeditiously to remove or disable access to the material(s) in question. It is our strict policy to disable access to accounts of repeat copyright violators. We will also ban the IP address of repeat offenders from future posting on this website with or without a registered account.
All 3rd party material posted on this website is copyright the respective owners / authors. Atomicbobs.com makes no claim of copyright on such material.
Please be aware any communications sent complaining about a post on this website may be posted publicly at the discretion of the administration.
---
DON'T BREAK THE LAW!
---
Other than that you can do / say whatever you want on this forum.
We reserve the right to block access to this website by any individual or organization at any time for any reason whatsoever or no reason at all.