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Re: Tesla and any other batteries Re: electric cars

By: micro in 6TH POPE | Recommend this post (0)
Thu, 26 May 22 6:39 PM | 21 view(s)
Boardmark this board | 6th Edition Pope Board 		Msg. 32307 of 60008
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Hi Fizzy

well spoken and reasoned.

Don't totally disagree with you.
Generators from WIND like a windmill in yer backyard, or from streams can also create power. I am not a fan of those oversized windmill farms because they are an eyesore..And they really do not produce much electric for every eyesore either.
Solar panels have the problem that non bright sunny days produce almost Nothing..

I use a high 18 seer Heat Punp at my home for the heating and cooling. It works well. Keeps my energy consumption down as well as my utility bills.

Now here is a thought.. How about an electric vehicle that produces its own sustaining source of electric by using an onboard generator/alternator just like we have some pretty powerful amperage.. ???? That would make a battery car self sustaining..

Right now what is NOT being talked about is HOW are we going to provide all the extra electric to power all these electric cars when we do not have the electric needed currently to prevent all those blackouts and brownouts every single year????

I guess I don't like being forced to do something against my will especially when I have a perfectly good, still brand new looking 7 year old vehicle that averages about 30 MPG and is gasoline..

THIS whole thing going on now is nothing more than POLITICAL in nature because it is not a choice, they are trying to FORCE peopole this way because of SIERRA CLUB like mentality.

Forcing people to do something against their will is never a good thing and that is the pther reason why there is so much resistance... It is synonomous with leftist ideology...

Anyway, why don't the geniuses who design these electric vehicles also build into them a self charging system ?

I had the idea some years ago about pace makers that instead of having to remove one when the batteries got weak and then install a whole new one, why don;t they make them so they can be recharged and not have to go thru a surgery to replace it?

I talked to the heart doctor about it.. I understand that today they are available that one doesn;t have to have the whole unit removed and replaced.. Progress.

Anyway, that's is my five cents on where we are with save the planet cars.. Make the batteries stay charged while driving and ya might have something there...
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Re: Tesla and any other batteries Re: electric cars
By: fizzy in 6TH POPE
Thu, 26 May 22 5:54 PM 		Msg. 32304 of 60008

Micro,

Most of the time I am in areas which I think COULD generate more than enough power from solar to power house+car IF there were sufficient batteries, charging panels, and -- most of all -- NEED.

There are a lot of qualifications in that last paragraph, so I am not kidding myself.


What drives me nuts, is why so little common sense has been deployed since 1970, when the US went past peak oil. As of that point, we knew we had a vast weakness. Still, building standards haven't changed to sufficiently encourage what we know about southern exposure and geothermal. Someone here said they don't understand why HYBRID vehicles weren't more encouraged. Indeed, it seems they are DIScouraged (unavailable) even though we don't yet have the 100 year batteries we would need to make local power generation work.

I suggest, again, that everyone do sufficient reading about what peak oil actually means and implies. It is wise to either personally do something about it, or mathematically DISPROVE IT in energetic terms (again, economics and existence of in-ground oil are irrelevant if the energetics don't work).

Otherwise it is sort of like playing Russian Roulette on the "theory" that there aren't bullets in the gun, or the bullets can't penetrate your thick skull. No need to be conservative! This is one of those things you DON'T want to get wrong. I recommend you err on the side of being sure you can produce your own power, in sufficient quantity, that you CAN survive your minimal lifestyle.

It's easy enough to test: flip off your central breaker and turn off your gas or propane. Can you make it a week? A month? A year?

Most of us couldn't make it beyond a DAY, and yet we persist in the delusion that we are strong and don't have a problem.

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