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Re: Evidence Ukraine Military Based Operations out of Civilian Areas as a Tactic

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Fizzy, that memory serves correctly, I thought
President Reagan tried to reach out and "break the ice" with the soviets when he actually got to know Gorbachev better. I think that was the closest relationship we had with the Russians in my lifetime. Do you remember that?

Also, one other thing. I don't know about today's fighting forces, but I can tell you from up close and personal, our Marines were not to be toyed with in Vietnam. We were outnumbered most times by a lot and we did not lose any firefights I was ever involved in.. And there were several involving NVA Regulars and VC both.

I think the same is true for the Desert Storm ground assaults as well. Iffen the troops have good field leadership and are well led, You do not want to be on the receiving end.

While the pussies of the Military today's leadership are just that, the grunts who do the fighting are not like them. I know some youngsters who are in their first year of service and I am reminded of myself when I was their age.

I don't want you making the mistake of assuming the combat troops are a bunch of misfits and softies because you would be dead wrong. The public top brass pinkies are one thing, but the fighting Marine or soldier is quite another and whatever ya do, don't mess with a Ranger , Seal, or Green Beret. They all can kill you with one hand.

Just wanted to clear up a little about the military being a bunch of fruits just because we see some fruit loops publicly.

Thanks for listening.


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Re: Evidence Ukraine Military Based Operations out of Civilian Areas as a Tactic
By: Fiz
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Mon, 08 Aug 22 11:17 PM
Msg. 34402 of 60008

You ignore the fact that in the 'liberated' regions, the majority of people identify as Russian. This will eventually either settle down to the restoration of the historic Russian western buffer zone—with most of the productive assets which WERE under Ukrainian control no longer being accessible to the West. Or it will continue, and eventually go beyond Ukraine, and the US/EU will pay even more dearly.

The EU has been castrated. And the US has castrated itself. I'm surprised you don't see deeper into the origins and ramifications of this thing. The US already used its 'super weapon' and it was a total dud. Worse than that, it actually blew up on the US' face, on world-wide display, as will become more apparent as more and more countries peel away from the decrepit US empire.

The strategic goals of Russia/China have already been achieved in Ukraine. The Russians + Chinese never really intended this to be a kinetic war but, rather, an economic war in traditional disguise.

Nonetheless, in the bigger picture, the overwhelming predominance of Ukraine's natural resources have already been captured. What is left of Ukraine now is mostly just dregs -- not worth Russia advancing further. And the US will probably pay trillions it doesn't have, over the years, to subsidize more Ukrainian embezzlement.
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Stupid all the way down. But the US does stupid really well these days.

And if it does escape Ukrainian kinetic containment? If the US/EU elites are stupid enough to push it there? Russia+China have an overwhelming battlefield advantage in the weapons that count. We don't even have hypersonic missiles yet. And aircraft carriers are so 1945; more a liability than an asset if things get dirty. But the biggest advantage is China/Russia homefield advantage and cultural energy. The US has lots of obese, and transvestite troops who really don't have heart in the game. Didn't Vietnam teach the US anything? Apparently not. Obviously not. We have a lot of slow learners over here; maybe too much time spent on the couch, eating potato chips, and playing video game 'shooters'?

It is kind of sad, because it didn't have to be this way. The US could have honestly tried to befriend post-USSR Russia. THAT would have been strategically brilliant. But instead we tried to do our old 'colonize and rape' thing. That forced Russia into China's arms -- historically they have not been friends, for lots of good reasons. And, of course, we BUILT CHINA into an manufacturing powerhouse and transferred all our best technology to them.

Unbelievable the stupidity and short-sightedness of it all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_War


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