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Re: 8th Grade Examination 1912. Read it and despair, many of our college grads couldn't pass this, imo!

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You are welcome, Micro! It certainly puts into question the idea of progress! We've "progressed" so much that, on average, we (without the tech crutch) can't do half of what we could do more than a hundred years ago. With progress like this, how long before we can't tie our own shoe laces? I'd say about 500 years should do it!

What's disturbing to me is when I wonder how much of this is social, how much is education, and how much is -- possibly -- a real collapse in intelligence? We know (well, some of us know) that different countries have significantly different average IQs. Yes, ethnicity also shows variation.

It is both true, and a common wives tale, that IQ is biased -- but that is different from asking if it is objective. A good IQ test IS objective. Indeed, I understand they can quite accurately measure the IQ of pre-verbal infants by measuring brain wave response as various stimuli are applied.

A good question is what "we" can do about it. IQ is mostly genetic -- like height, or any other attribute where baseline is determined fundamentally by genetics. Nutrition, developmental environment, and accidents along the path of life LIMIT how much of IQ potential gets realized.

I don't think focusing on race is helpful, but it is only commonsense, and hopeful, that IQ is - ultimately - CULTURAL. It is against the culture of the US to talk about that. But not talking about something doesn't make it go away; indeed the opposite.

Changing your culture will likely not affect YOUR IQ, but it will affect what humans you hang out with and influence choice of values, and ultimately who you mate with. Natural selection through time can select for IQ potential, just like any other inheritable trait.

http://hankpellissier.medium.com/why-is-the-iq-of-ashkenazi-jews-so-high-twenty-possible-explanations-57ba50ab8d0e

http://personalityanalysistest.com/average-iq/average-iq-of-ashkenazi-jews-best-guide/

http://www.creditdonkey.com/average-iq-country.html

Ashkenazi Jews: Average ~110 (estimates range 108-115)
Countries with the Highest Average IQs

Singapore and Hong Kong: IQ of 108.
South Korea: IQ of 106
China, Taiwan, and Japan: IQ of 105
Iceland and Switzerland: IQ of 101
Austria, Netherlands, and Norway: IQ of 100


What is the average IQ of American adults?
The average American adult has an IQ of 98, ...landing us in 24th place. and, purportedly, rapidly falling.

Malawi: IQ of 60.
Mozambique: IQ of 64
Nigeria: IQ of 69
Botswana, Ghana, and Zambia: IQ of 71
Kenya, Namibia, South Africa, Tanzania, and Zimbabwe: IQ of 72


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Re: 8th Grade Examination 1912. Read it and despair, many of our college grads couldn't pass this, imo!
By: micro
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Sat, 03 Sep 22 2:33 PM
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I took the exam just for fun. It's tough and I am glad that I could cheat today and use a calculator that wasn;t available back in those days..

The English grammar section is difficult and I really had to re-think these things I had learned as an English Major in High School. Its hard for me to believe they were teaching these things to elementary school children... And yet they did, successfully!

Then I saw a reference to the Erie Canal!
Wow.

THAT hits close to home literally.. Parts of it are under the roadway of Route 4 running thru Fairfield and Hamilton Ohio.. I had a factory close by to that..

Literally only maybe a couple hunmdred yards from the center of Route 4..

Those questions are tough and the amount of emphasis put on GRAMMAR and English is amazing..

Thanks for sharing that Fiz! It is fascinating to me...


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