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And in 2000, if I remember things right, something dodgy happened in Broward County, resulting in a possibly serious undercount.

As I remember it, the SCOTUS decision was the judicial equivalent of a coin toss. I thought it was a shame Dubya didn't concede on the grounds that with a result so equal, having a larger share of the vote ought to have been decisive. The SCOTUS decision cast a long shadow.


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By: clo2
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Tue, 13 Sep 22 8:56 PM
Msg. 47030 of 54809

"The 2020 election cycle OUGHT TO HAVE BEEN thoroughly carefully watched and thoroughly investigated. It was not. It intentionally was not. Covid lockdowns were used to justify a vast expansion in mail in ballots, which could not be carefully monitored."

That election was tested in the courts more than any other. Many of the judges were appointed by Trump.
Trump LOST. Period!

Washington state & Utah have been mail in for years, no problem.
Voter fraud is miniscule & in the 2020 election it was mostly republicans charged.

As for Rudy, I'll be surprised if he isn't found guilty.
Watch Georgia.

If you want to question an election, look at the 2000, Al lost in Florida by 537 votes, & the governor was the brother of GWB & SCOTUS made a decision, but said it could never be used in the future to help another case...

We accepted that & didn't attack the Capital.

After the 2020 United States presidential election, the campaign for incumbent President Donald Trump and others filed and lost at least 63 lawsuits[1] contesting election processes, vote counting, and the vote certification process in multiple states, including Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.[2] Among the judges who dismissed the lawsuits were some appointed by Trump himself.[3]

Nearly all the suits were dismissed or dropped due to lack of evidence.[4] Judges, lawyers, and other observers described the suits as "frivolous"[5] and "without merit".[6][7] In one instance, the Trump campaign and other groups seeking his reelection collectively lost multiple cases in six states on a single day.[8] Only one ruling was initially in Trump's favor: the timing within which first-time Pennsylvania voters must provide proper identification if they wanted to “cure” their ballots. This ruling affected very few votes,[9] and it was later overturned by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.[10]

Trump, his attorneys, and his supporters falsely[11] asserted widespread election fraud in public statements, but few such assertions were made in court.[12] Every state except Wisconsin[13] met the December 8 statutory "safe harbor" deadline to resolve disputes and certify voting results. The Trump legal team had said it would not consider this election certification deadline as the expiration date for its litigation of the election results.[14][15][16] Three days after it was filed by Texas attorney general Ken Paxton, the U.S. Supreme Court on December 11 declined to hear a case supported by Trump and his Republican allies asking for electoral votes in four states to be rejected.[17]

One suit, Michigan Welfare Rights Org. et al. v. Donald J. Trump et al., was brought by black voter groups in Michigan against Trump and his 2020 presidential campaign.[18][19][20] Dominion Voting Systems brought defamation lawsuits against former Trump campaign lawyers Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani, each for $1.3 billion.[21][22] Smartmatic brought a defamation lawsuit against Fox Corporation and its anchors Lou Dobbs, Maria Bartiromo, and Jeanine Pirro as well as Giuliani and Powell for $2.7 billion.[23]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_U.S._presidential_election

States With All-Mail Elections
2/3/2022
Our organization does not run elections and cannot provide legal advice. If you are a voter looking for assistance, please contact your local election official. You can find your local election official's website and contact information by using this database from the US Vote Foundation.

This table is part of NCSL’s Voting Outside the Polling Place report.

In all-mail elections, all registered voters are sent a ballot in the mail. The voter marks the ballot, puts it in a secrecy envelope or sleeve and then into a separate mailing envelope, signs an affidavit on the exterior of the mailing envelope and returns the package via mail or by dropping it off.

Ballots are mailed out well ahead of Election Day, and thus voters have an “election period,” not just a single day, to vote. All-mail elections can be thought of as absentee voting for everyone. This system is also referred to as “vote by mail.”

Eight states—California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Vermont and Washington—allow all elections to be conducted by mail.

Two states—Nebraska and North Dakota—permit counties to opt into conducting elections by mail.

Nine states—Alaska, Arizona, Florida, Kansas, Maryland, Missouri, Montana, New Mexico and Wyoming—allow specific small elections to be conducted by mail.

Four states—Idaho, Minnesota, New Jersey and New Mexico—permit all-mail elections for certain small jurisdictions.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-18-states-with-all-mail-elections.aspx


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