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Re: Graham's abortion proposal has carve-outs 

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (1)
Fri, 16 Sep 22 9:27 AM | 24 view(s)
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Question of process.

I'd put options into a referendum and have the people as a whole decide the outcome. At least then you don't have absolute moralists polarising the debate.

I'm not sure the US has federal referenda (ie direct democracy as applied to particular questions), but I'd recommend them as an adjustment to your constitution if you don't. It offers something more substantial than an opinion poll: the expression of the popular will on a specific subject.

You could do the same for gun rights, so you have more clarification than SCOTUS' flakey and political interpretations of the text of the second amendment.

A means of expressing the popular will would act as a brake on the unelected justices of SCOTUS' making political decisions. They'd have to honour the will of the people as of great value in interpreting a poorly defined amendment to the Bill of Rights, and of greater authority than the simplistic doctrine of originalism.

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Graham's abortion proposal has carve-outs
By: Cactus Flower in ALEA
Fri, 16 Sep 22 9:15 AM 		Msg. 47093 of 54818

It turns out that Graham’s 15 week proposal contains sensible exceptions for rape, incest and to protect a woman’s life. So the child-rape extension that clo was worried about is provided for.

I am not sure why it is characterised as an abortion ban. It simply reduces slightly normal limits on abortion choices in order to protect the risk of suffering in the foetus. Or, as I would put it, it says 3 1/2 months is long enough to figure out what you want to do. How long does anyone need to make up their mind?

That's a perfectly reasonable, non-absolutist position, in my view. It seeks to balance the interests of the parents and the embryo/foetus/baby/child. No wonder both sides hate it.

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