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I don't think it's embarrassing unless you are concerned by labels and not the politics which underlie them.

We've seen in the last four decades that the Republican Party's doctrines are considerably changed. The party of Trump hardly resembles the party of Reagan.

Similarly, the Democratic party was fifty or sixty years back particularly focussed on accumulating votes in the south, as you observe, a fact which is now inverted.

The party of Lincoln, as I see it, bears little relationship to the modern Republican Party. I learnt this, if my recollections are correct, when reading the works of my favourite American, Mark Twain. I was at first baffled by his descriptions of the contemporary Republican Party, until I discovered the osmosis upon which you are commenting. The liberal (and not the woke) wing of the modern Democratic Party most resembles the party of Lincoln, in my opinion, but it is not an exact match. Whereas I cannot imagine the GOP fighting a war on behalf of black Americans today. Owning the libs is what Republicans want more than anything: it's the unifying slogan; also horribly empty of hope or constructive utility.

If you are interested, and I'm not sure you are, I count myself mostly an English Conservative, which is by no means the same thing as an American Conservative, and yet they fly under the same name. British conservatism is tethered to the ideas of Burke, who thought of his doctrines as pragmatic: whatever works is what is best. He was particularly enthusiastic about preserving institutions that have developed over time and wary of new ones unless they were necessary and served a useful purpose. He was very much not excited by the promotion of ideologies (capitalism! socialism!) and dogmas of the sort with which the American right (and indeed the British left) is so involved. Nor would he have had any interest in right wing labelling or left wing identity politics.


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The Racist History of the Democratic Party 1864-2020
By: Fiz
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Wed, 21 Sep 22 2:51 AM
Msg. 47158 of 54813

Cactusflower:

I thought you might find this educational about US politics.

For most of the time since its formation in 1828, the “Democratic Party” has been the bastion of the slave owners, and then the Jim Crow (KKK) "racists"/ segregationists. The "makeover" from 1960s until now has been interesting to see (especially as I had boots on the ground in the early 1960s, in the deep south).

FWIW Abraham Lincoln was a Republican - kind of embarrassing for the Democrats to acknowledge.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-09-20/racist-history-democratic-party-1864-2020

The Racist History of the Democratic Party 1864-2020
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by 24Richie
Tuesday, Sep 20, 2022 - 12:09

"In 1863 President Abraham Lincoln issued the preliminary Emancipation Proclamation, which declared that
all slaves in areas still in rebellion on January 1, 1863, “shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free.”

This declaration did not have the weight of law and to make permanent his goal of freeing slaves Lincoln sought a
Constitutional amendment to end slavery. When the House voted on the amendment on June 15, 1864,
it garnered 93 votes, 13 short of the two-thirds majority required for passage. The Constitutional Amendment to end
slavery failed because only four Democrats broke ranks to vote in the amendment’s favor.

When a second vote on the amendment was taken on January 31, 1865 the measure passed.
16 Democrats voted to end slavery, 56 voted to preserve slavery.


Woodrow Wilson a Democrat and President from 1913-1921 was a segregationist who had written a history textbook
praising the Confederacy and the Ku Klux Klan.
As President during World War I he resegregated the
military services and some of the civil service.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/11/20/9766896/woodrow-wils…

While housing discrimination has always existed the FDR administration made housing discrimination against
blacks Federal government policy. He did this by constructing redline maps which prevented the government from purchasing
mortgages in or near African-American Neighborhoods. This become better known with the 2017 publication of
"The Color Of Law" by Richard Rothstein.

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/526655831/a-forgotten-history-of-how-the…

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/17/528822128/the-color-of-law-details-how-u…

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/upshot/how-redlinings-racist-effects…

After the attack on Pearl Harbor (DEMOCRAT) Roosevelt ordered the internment of Japanese Americans. This was challenged and
upheld by the Supreme Court. Justice Murphy of the Supreme Court expressed the following opinion:
"detention in Relocation Centers of persons of Japanese ancestry regardless of loyalty is not only unauthorized by
Congress or the Executive but is another example of the unconstitutional resort to racism inherent in the entire
evacuation program."

When in 1957 (REPUBLICAN) President Eisenhower sent troops into Little Rock to desegrate schools he was opposed by Democratic governor
Orval Faubus who sent Arkansas National Guard to stop African Americans from attending Little Rock Central
High School. Democratic Governor George Wallace did something similar in Alabama in 1963.

https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/eisenhower-intervenes-in-l…

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/press-past/2013/06/11/george-wallace-…


Some of the most powerful members of the Senate such as Robert Byrd were Democrats and racists.
Byrd was a Senator until 2010. In his early years in West Virginia Byrd had been a KKK member
and had
recruited members, Later Byrd called his KKK affiliation “an Extraordinarily foolish mistake”

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2010/06/30/byrds-kkk-hi…

The first post-Reconstruction Civil Right act was passed in 1957 when (REPUBLICAN) Eisenhower was President.
Attorney General Herbert Brownell drafted the legislative proposal that ultimately became the
Civil Rights Act of 1957, the first civil rights law that was enacted since 1875. His proposal it was weakened
by the US Senate. This despite Democrat Senator Strom Thurmond's 57-day filibuster. Another Senator participating in the
filibuster was Al Gore, Sr. All 18 votes against this in the Senate were Democrats.

Eisenhower's Attorney General Herbert Brownell drafted the legislative proposal that ultimately became the
Civil Rights Act of 1957, the first civil rights law
that was enacted since 1875. His proposal it was weakened by the US Senate.

https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/the-civil-rights-movement-in-amer…

In 1975 Senator Joe Biden sponsored a successful bill that prohibited the use of federal funds for busing.
Biden's anti-busing views were highlighted by then candidate Kamala Harris in the 2019 debates.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/15/us/politics/biden-busing.html

In a 1977 congressional hearing, Biden had this to say about school busing "‘Unless we do something about this,
my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high
that it is going to explode at some point."

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uiug.30112104078842&view=1up&seq…

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/15/us/politics/biden-busing.html

“What it says is, in order for your child with curly black hair, brown eyes and dark skin to be able to learn
anything, he needs to sit next to my blond-haired, blue-eyed son. That’s racist! Who the hell do we think
we are, that the only way a black man or woman can learn is if they rub shoulders with my white child?”

- Joe Biden from a 1975 interview on school busing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/transcript-of-then-sen-biden-s-interview…
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-opposed-quotas-in-1975and-he-was-rig…
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/28/us/politics/joe-biden-busing-kamala-…

"This NYT article of July 15, 2019 expresses the view that Biden did not change his views on school busing until
he realized it was a liability to his getting elected.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/15/us/politics/biden-busing.html


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