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Re: De: I said: Capitalism >>AT LEAST AS CURRENTLY PRACTICED<< SUCKS. "Socialism" does, too."

By: Zimbler0 in 6TH POPE | Recommend this post (0)
Thu, 22 Sep 22 3:25 AM | 47 view(s)
Boardmark this board | 6th Edition Pope Board 		Msg. 35760 of 60008
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Illth, coined by John Ruskin in the 1860s, is the reverse of wealth in the sense of ill being the opposite of well. [1] [2] John Ruskin, who coined the term Illth in Unto This Last. Wealth, therefore, is "The possession of the valuable by the valiant"; and in considering it as a power existing in a nation, the two elements, the value of the ...
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Or perhaps you prefer this sort of definition :

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The reason that bads and illth, inevitable joint products with goods and wealth, are not counted, even when no longer negligible in the full world, is that obviously no one wants to buy them, so there is no market for them, and hence no price by which to value them. But it is worse—these bads are real and people are very willing to buy the ...
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Or perhaps this one - straight from the butts of America's liverazzis . . .

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Bads and illth consist of things like nuclear wastes, the dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico, biodiversity loss, climate change from excess carbon in the atmosphere, depleted mines, eroded topsoil, dry wells, exhausting and dangerous labor, congestion, etc. We are indebted to John Ruskin for the word "illth," and to an anonymous economist ...
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Throw a 'little lie' into the mix and I (these days anyway) assume that the rest is all lies meant to 'persuade' me to believe something that will be hazardous to my health and well-being.

Zim.




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De: I said: Capitalism >>AT LEAST AS CURRENTLY PRACTICED<< SUCKS. "Socialism" does, too."
By: Fiz in 6TH POPE
Thu, 22 Sep 22 12:29 AM 		Msg. 35754 of 60008

'"Capitalism", at least as currently practiced, SUCKS. "Socialism" does, too.'

I stuck "at least as currently practiced" for a reason. Multiple reasons, actually. One was to open up a space to more cleanly discuss capitalism vs socialism.

To strip out those words and just leave "Capitalism SUCKS" is to massively misquote me and totally mistake my argument...and the purpose for the short essay.

Did you have thoughts about whole concept of "ILLth"?

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