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Re: Wealth vs. Illth, GloboCap, Socialism, Fascism, and Comparison 

By: Decomposed in 6TH POPE | Recommend this post (2)
Thu, 22 Sep 22 12:43 PM | 97 view(s)
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Re: “People who CAN'T define words clearly CAN'T THINK clearly, Zim.”It's not that simple. There ARE words that are like "pornography" - hard to define but we know them when we see them. I'd venture that you too would find it hard to come up with a flawless definition of "socialism." I don't think anybody can. There are just too many cases where commonly accepted prominent socialists proved to be hypocritical in their behaviors, thereby blurring the word's definition regardless of what it was. Early 20th century Italy and Russia, for instance, were both socialist, totalitarian dictatorships, but the Communists were officially socialists with an international focus while Mussolini defined fascism as socialism with a NATIONAL bent (kinda like Hitler, eh? Those two's politics really only differed in the Nazi's racist obsession.) When it came to practice, Stalin's Communist International served the NATIONAL interests of the Soviet Union despite whatever international rhetoric the country used, and Italy's supposed NATIONAL socialism was belied by Italy's invasion of other countries. They were hypocrites. Any country you might use as a model of socialism will similarly punch holes that you could drive a tank through in the word's definition.

When I engage in internet discussions, I've noticed how frequently - and annoyingly - opponents make requests of me as part of the price of admission... I guess for the privilege of talking to them. The requests aren't things they're offering to do themselves, mind you, but things they expect ME to do - and they usually come across as more of a demand. Things like: "What's your source?" "Show me that it's a reputable source." "Define XYZZY." "Are you a libertarian?" (They like to label people instead of dealing with them as individuals with thoughts of their own.) In your case, you told Zimbler0 to post his definitions, his facts, his reasons, a list of examples, then said you'd start with an "easy one" which isn't easy at all except for someone who has the answers at hand, perhaps plucked from a recently read book.

When people start doing that to me, I see it as a defense mechanism on their part. Is that what you're doing? I'll remind you that although you might be a boss, but you aren't ZIMBLER's boss. And if that's not what you're doing, then perhaps what I've just posted will be helpful to you. It's how you're coming across and you should know it.

I suggest you just make your point and leave it to whoever you're speaking with to post opposing examples, facts, definitions, etc, if they're of a mind to do so. None of us want to have to read a book in order to a respond to a message.







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Re: Wealth vs. Illth, GloboCap, Socialism, Fascism, and Comparison
By: Fiz in 6TH POPE
Thu, 22 Sep 22 11:50 AM 		Msg. 35767 of 60008

Zim: "You want me to waste a lot of my time trying to provide you with 'definitions'? I don't think so. You may safely assume I am using the old time honored definitions of things."

People who CAN'T define words clearly CAN'T THINK clearly, Zim. And it is foolish, and a waste of time, to try to have gainful discussions with them.

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