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Re: Hoover Institute: Bjorn Lomborg ... My apology to De 

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Re: “I confess I thought you felt climate change probably isn't real.”
You've probably noticed that I almost always quote people I'm responding to. It's otherwise just too easy and unfair to attribute things to them that might not reflect the reality or context.

It's been ten years since I drafted the climate change post that got me banned from clo's board. I've linked to it, below. You should give it a look. My position is and has been that we don't know very much about climate change. We don't know if it's happening. We don't know if it's worsening. We don't know bad it will get. We don't know the cause. We don't know what to do about it. We don't know if what we might do will make things worse. We don't know the dollar cost of fixing climate change. There are some things we DO know: The behavior of liberal leaders has not been compatible with their words (Al Gore's carbon footprint, for instance, or Barack Obama's home choice.) Climate scientists have altered and filtered data to achieve the desired result. The meaning of "science" has been altered to support a political end. Climate change predictions for which enough time has passed have been universally WRONG. Climate events that have no clear connection to climate change are routinely attributed to it. Almost all of the American adherents to the climate change religion oppose clean energy that works: Nuclear power.

So, yeah. I'm definitely SUSPICIOUS about global warming. But I haven't ruled it out. I'm also quite sure that my wife, my son and I will be moldering in our graves before we would class it as a "problem."
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Re: Hoover Institute: Bjorn Lomborg ... My apology to De
By: Fiz
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Sun, 09 Oct 22 8:12 PM
Msg. 36288 of 60008

Sorry, De. My apologies. It certainly wasn't intentional.

For me, the interview was very interesting because of the approach Lomborg took; he took middle of the road, based on common sense, which ought to bridge the gap between Dems and Repubs. I thought you might find that interesting.

I confess I thought you felt climate change probably isn't real. Personally, I feel the scientific evidence isn't compelling—because it is so corrupted/biased. I might have confused you with myself! ;-/

My thinking is:
(1) The science is hopelessly contaminated by government /influencers
(2) burning a billion years worth of fossil fuels in 150 years OUGHT to change the climate
(3) At the end of the day, “Climate change”, real or not, isn't - and shouldn't be – anywhere near the top of our present moment dangers.
(4) Even if global warming is both real, and dangerous, there isn nothing much we can do about it now, beyond beginning to prepare for it. Instead of probably wasting trillions to “fight” it, with high-tech and doubtful usage restrictions, we should deal with more vital, more economic issues.

Anyway, sorry for mistaking your position and, especially, for coming across impolitely. The first was ignorance. The second was ignorance +bad communication.


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