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Hi Zim,

Did a quick search of "endocrine distruptors", and this popped up immediately:
http://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23359474/
Plastics derived endocrine disruptors (BPA, DEHP and DBP) induce epigenetic transgenerational inheritance of obesity, reproductive disease and sperm epimutations


You might want to chew on that. There are thousands of other studies saying variations on the same thing.

The main takeaway for you is that "toxicity" doesn't necessarily mean "kills". Making you sterile, or making you obese, or diabetic, or making your chance of cancer go up 20% making the insects die off, so the birds die off, the trees die off, may be what you would call of a "feature" -- but they are all examples of toxicity.

Something about our widespread use of plastics which is not well appreciated is that MOST "plastic" falls in a broad category known as "other". That -- like "essential hypertension" -- is a clever way of saying "haven't a clue what is in it."

If you haven't a clue what is in it, it both means that you can't recycle it, but it also means you can't claim it is "safe". Most plastics fall into that category called "other".

That's about all I have to say on the topic: we don't know what we are doing with regard to most of the things we put into our environment and our bodies. Like mRNA "vaccines" mostly we test things like plastic and chemicals in general very modestly before we unleash them on the consumer.
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What is the material plastic made of? Plastics are high-molecular-weight organic polymers that are made up of a number of different elements, including carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, sulphur, and chlorine.
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I don't see it."

Biochemists don't look at individual atoms to try to ascertain whether a molecule is toxic. Table salt is NaCl. Na is sodium, it is a metal which will spontaneously combust if you drop it in water and melt your tongue if you are silly enough to lick it. Cl is chlorine, it will evaporate to gas at room temperature and it will kill you quickly if you breath it. If you drip it on your skin it will break the hydrogen-hydrogen bonds which hold your skin together, effectively dissolving your skin. Yet, if you put NaCl on your tongue it will neither explode, nor turn to poison gas, nor dissolve your skin. It will taste salty.




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Re: North America&reshoring of the global supply chain
By: Zimbler0
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Thu, 03 Nov 22 11:02 PM
Msg. 37029 of 58601

Fiz > And now that we are beginning to get an inkling of the incredible high toxicity and non-recyclability of virtually all plastic...well


'Incredibly high toxicity'?

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What is the material plastic made of? Plastics are high-molecular-weight organic polymers that are made up of a number of different elements, including carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, sulphur, and chlorine.
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I don't see it.

Things that are incredibly toxic have a tendency to be killing folks quickly - and as wide spread as plastics are in use today 'deaths by plastic' would be HUGE if it were very toxic.

I'm sure there are a number of decent reasons for reducing the use of plastics and going renewable . . . But 'toxic plastics' are not one of them.

Zim.


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