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Re: Martin Armstrong Expects MASSIVE Cheating Now, and Maybe Worse 2024

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De,

What I respect the most about Martin Armstrong's "trends" calls is he doesn't call them, and then call them off, nor try to deny them, when it looks like things are going the wrong way.

The trends are VERY date based, so after dates have passed he may let go of a prediction, but generally not before. So, I remember when the Dow was around 12,000 (I don't remember exactly what year that was, although I recall it was before 2015...so probably closer to 2012). The economy seemed to be sliding back toward recession and a lot of stock forecasters were hedging their bets and predicting the market going down. Armstrong stuck with his general "Dow 18,000...on the way to perhaps Dow 50,000 long term call. And I, of course, was too chicken to buy stocks, and I stuck with gold even though Armstrong made clear he wasn't looking for metals to be a good place to be for perhaps a long time....

And, again, I've never SUBSCRIBED to Armstrong. I've never paid him anything for his regular market services in stocks, bonds, metals, or other commodities. So when I am citing Armstrong I am going only with what I remember of what he was willing to say PUBLICLY (for free).

All I can say, at the end of the day, is I wish I had taken his calls more seriously and, in retrospect, I believe I would have been way ahead if I'd PAID for his shorter term advice and ACTED on it. But the weak link there, of course, is my actions. I'm not very good with market speculations -- I'm not a stonks guy, at all.... I am way better with tangible things I can touch and I have some control over. In that situation I don't need to go so much on faith nor other peoples' opinion on what I should do.

But when Armstrong takes a position publicly he sticks with it pretty well. He often says his biggest mistakes are when he doesn't "believe" Socrates (what his models are implying) enough or when he tries too hard to make real-world predictions on events based upon his cycles. He makes clear that things peak when they peak - but WHAT HAPPENED on that date is often not easy to say. Some MAJOR "events" are never released publicly (in the news)...they are consequential decisions made by power brokers behind closed doors to start a war or make a major geopolitical/financial change. Thankfully, he seems to have cultivated a lot of relationships with powerful people around the globe. He's wised me up quite a bit as to how things work in the world...often with me denying his forecast until it is too late.




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Re: Martin Armstrong Expects MASSIVE Cheating Now, and Maybe Worse 2024
By: Fiz
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Mon, 07 Nov 22 5:35 PM
Msg. 37141 of 60008

De, In my lifetime, up until Trump got elected, the party which didn't win the Presidency has always been a disgruntled...but always went along reasonably well with the arrangement. Heck, I remember when the two parties were "bipartisan" to some extent on nearly all legislation. Don't you remember that?

And I recall when you said that the FBI would step in and do the right thing once it became apparent Trump was being wrongly treated by "a few" out of control agents. So...that was as recent as 2017?

I don't think either of expected the federal government was completely corrupt/off-the-constitutional-rails in, say, 2015. I know I wasn't that far gone. I've always thought bureaucracies were bungling and maybe filled with a few too many sinecures, but I went along with the program figuring it was just inertia and bad habits.

Yes, I figured JFK was assassinated. And I had read enough of other exploits, and false flag attacks, that I figured there were SOME bad actors in the Federal machinery.

But I never figured until 2018-2019, when the whole of the "Russia, Russia, Russia" / impeachment scam was out in the open that the majority of the federal government -- probably including the Pentagon -- was in collusion against the Republic. And, even then, I didn't thought it was just "a majority" and not a totality.

For approximately all the years I've known of Armstrong (which, as I said, began, I believe, around 2012) he has been saying the biggest trend his cycles saw was loss of faith in government...beginning around 2015 through 2030 or so (with rise of China to #1 world power approx 2032/34 after a "likely" major war around 2027.

He said these things way before I heard of anyone else saying they were likely.

FWIW, with respect to gold/silver, he has always been rather hesitant to recommend them, because he said they would eventually hold their own but the stock market was the better place to be until after the Euro and Yen collapsed and the dollar was finally going to lose value (as part of the losing faith in government). He was saying, way back in 2012 that the Dow would go through 18,000 (it was about about 12,000 at the time, if I remember approximately right) which seemed unlikely to me! Indeed, he called for the Dow to eventually perhaps get to 50,000....which it still hasn't as of yet.


But he always warned that at the end stocks might be 50,000 because there was no better place to escape dollar collapse. He always said gold/silver had their place but the main thing to watch was confidence in the government/institutions, because that was the only thing really backing fiat.

Again, as I said, he is looking at cycles going up and going down and intersecting (as best I understand how his computer system works). The curves represent human and social beliefs/trends. From that he tries to figure out what to recommend that people do...how he thinks the trend changes will manifest in society and in the markets.


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