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Re: Reimagining the Future of Humanity via the Singularity. GPT3 Might Stretch Your MInd

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Two views of Singularity quotes:

"2029 is the consistent date I have predicted for when an AI will pass a valid Turing test and therefore achieve human levels of intelligence. I have set the date 2045 for the 'Singularity' which is when we will multiply our effective intelligence a billion fold by merging with the intelligence we have created." - Ray Kurzweil, Futurist & Google Director of Engineering
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"We are going to get so wrecked." -Max Hodak, Neuralink co-founder

-Departed Neuralink co-founder Max Hodak has a grim take on the fate of humanity: the robot uprising is inevitable, and they will leave humans in the dust.

Key to his argument, which is admittedly a little hard to follow, is that AI will likely not adhere to humanity's preconceptions about political and economic models for society.

"Humans are objectively bad with socialism (and on the contrary, capitalism is amazingly effective at advancing humanity)," he wrote in a tweet, "but machines might end up reasoning about their identities and communities super differently."

That kind of incompatibility could lead to some irreconcilable differences.

"We are going to get so wrecked," he added.

The kind of value systems that humans have used to structure societies over history — regardless of their success in bringing about meaningful change — may soon no longer be relevant.

"Idk, I think the broader point is just that machines might end up having a lot more flexibility on how they organize themselves than we do," Hodak pondered in a follow-up tweet. "It takes generations to upgrade cognitive technology in human societies."

The news comes after Hodak left brain implant startup Neuralink in May, a company he co-founded with SpaceX CEO Elon Musk.




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Reimagining the Future of Humanity via the Singularity. GPT3 Might Stretch Your MInd
By: Fiz
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Sun, 04 Dec 22 2:27 PM
Msg. 37925 of 60008

Those of you who have read a fair amount of science fiction are probably aware that, per Vernor Vinge and others, The Singularity was supposed to happen around this time: around 2020-2050, as I recall. Certainly, Musk is aware of this paradigm. I'm guessing he is trying to manage and, skillfully, hasten it.

The news this morning is that Open-AI, an organization co-founded and heavily supported by Musk as an alternative to Google/CCP's nightmare dystopic AI squashing humanity like a bug, has just released http://gpt3demo.com. This is a "chatbot" which writes and "thinks" probably better than you do, at least within its domain.

If you are not familiar with The Singularity, as a concept, you might want to read up on it:

PRO http://futurism.com/kurzweil-claims-that-the-singularity-will-happen-by-2045
CON http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/the_singularity_what_it_is_and_why_it_matters_more_than_anything_else.html

The basic idea is that change, largely driven by AI breakthroughs in computing power, starts changing things so fast that almost day to day, and certainly year to year, the thresholds of "what is real" and, especially, what is possible become effectively impossible to control. If you need an analogy, think of the physics of a black hole.

Usually, these days, I am a bit depressed and apprehensive about the future. As fast as tech capabilities grow the OPPRESSORS around the world AKA "Statists"/Control-freaks AKA Government "workers", utilize it to strip individual liberties and seize more control for themselves. So far they appear to be winning the war for the future.

The technology acceleration is likely to be either their greatest ally or their greatest enemy.

Ultimately, “Government” and “Military” is a STUPID, paleolithic, anti-creativity force/concept. It derives from our tribal origins and the idea of humans as a pack (socialism/communism) animal—where there is a supreme ruler and the rest of the pack is as expendable as worker bees & drones in a beehive.

For the good of mankind, we should all be considering how to rise above this and skillfully eliminate government, and those who want to grow it, from humanity. Up until now that has not been possible, because we have needed either slaves or "employees" for basic upkeep and food production. But we are on the cusp of possible positive developments if things (particularly the energy problem, but also overpopulation/corporatism) can be skillfully managed through transition. Hopefully, on the other side, there is something both more liberating and humanitarian.

Alternatively, we are on the cusp of slavery and genocide on a level pretty near impossible to contemplate as Our Masters work toward something like The Hunger Games meets Brave New World to keep us subjugated.

Please notice I stressed "skillfully". I am not talking about chaos but, rather, planned obsolescence. But that I mean, we don't need government, nor ANY soldiers nor government sinecures because things are governed at a much more local, human level.

Like it or not, one thing or the other, a future either very dark or - potentially - very bright is upon us. Fighting that seems impossible. And, indeed, we don't need to fight it if we can just manage to adapt to something almost impossible to imagine and, therefore, quite scary: liberty loving humans consciously evolving towards something both more heart felt and vastly "smarter".

The post Singularity future likely doesn't have any place for people doing physical labor: NO place for "soliders" nor "desk jobs" nor "housekeepers" nor "construction workers" nor anything which doesn't require much more heart and mind, and especially imagination, than a machine. And the machines are about to get a lot more sophisticated and flexible and even interactive.


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