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December 13, 2022

The Fusion Breakthrough to Be Announced Today Is Significant but Not a Game Changer

by Rick Moran
PJmedia.com



The Department of Energy will announce today that the National Ignition Facility (NIF) in Livermore, Calif., has ignited controlled nuclear fusion that resulted in the experiment making more energy than it uses.

“This is a monumental breakthrough,” says physicist Gilbert Collins of the University of Rochester in New York and a former collaborator at NIF. “Since I started in this field, fusion was always 50 years away…. With this achievement, the landscape has changed.”

Actually, while this is a “monumental breakthrough,” it’s hardly a game changer. A workable commercial fusion reactor may not be 50 years away, but unless the government pours money into development, it’s going to be several decades before a city is powered by fusion energy.

Still, scientists will look back on this day the way we look back to the first nuclear chain reaction that scientists achieved at the University of Chicago in December of 1942. That feat changed the landscape of nuclear science and led to nuclear reactors generating power for tens of millions of people.

Generating energy the same way the sun does — by fusing hydrogen atoms together and creating a heavier helium atom — is extremely difficult to achieve. Unlike fission, which is the splitting of atoms, fusion requires high temperatures and high pressure to squeeze the atoms together. On the sun, intense, crushing gravity creates pressure enough to overcome the nuclear forces and fuse the atoms.

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At the National Ignition Facility, 192 lasers directed at a small pellet of fuel provided a blast of energy that did the trick instead. The result was a burst of fusion energy that, though brief, was more than the laser energy that instigated the reaction, says physicist Carolyn Kuranz of the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, who was not involved with the research. While the total energy released by the experiment has not been made public yet, it exceeded the 1.3 million joules of energy produced by an earlier NIF experiment that marked the first time the team managed to ignite nuclear fusion (SN: 8/18/21).

But this latest fusion burst still didn’t produce enough energy to run the laser power supplies and other systems of the NIF experiment.
“The net energy gain is with respect to the energy in the light that was shined on the target, not with respect to the energy that went into making that light,” says University of Rochester physicist Riccardo Betti. “Now it’s up to the scientists and engineers to see if we can turn these physics principles into useful energy.”

Indeed, we’ve still got a long way to go before commercial fusion reactors become a reality. That’s because the energy generated in this experiment was extremely brief and didn’t really amount to much — about 120% of the energy in the lasers. Scientists refer to that ratio between input and output as the Q value.

“The headline grab of Q greater than one net energy gain is out there. That’s almost iconic now as a target, but it’s not sufficient for commercial fusion,” Kelsall said. “To get to commercial fusion, Q will need to be greater than 10, probably in the mid- to high teens.”

“Once you take into account the other energy requirements for a power plant system, the heating systems, Q greater than one at reaction level is not commercial fusion,” he said. “I think it’s really important that the market understands we need to go further than that.”
“We now have a laboratory system that we can use as a compass for how to make progress very rapidly,” says Collins. Some scientists believe this breakthrough is comparable to the invention of the transistor or the Wright Brothers’ first flight. Within 20 years of the invention of the transistor, they were being used in radios, televisions, and primitive computers. And within 20 years of the Wright Brothers, Charles Lindbergh flew across the Atlantic.

Where will fusion power be 20 years from now?

http://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2022/12/13/the-fusion-breakthrough-to-be-announced-today-is-significant-but-not-a-game-changer-n1653205




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Nuclear Fusion Breakthrough With Blast of 192 Lasers. But how do we use that?
By: Fiz
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Tue, 13 Dec 22 8:45 PM
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http://news.slashdot.org/story/22/12/13/1719245/scientists-achieve-nuclear-fusion-breakthrough-with-blast-of-192-lasers

"Scientists for decades have said that fusion, the nuclear reaction that makes stars shine, could provide a future source of bountiful energy. The result announced on Tuesday is the first fusion reaction in a laboratory setting that actually produced more energy than it took to start the reaction.

"This is such a wonderful example of a possibility realized, a scientific milestone achieved, and a road ahead to the possibilities for clean energy,"
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Well, if we call a bomb a laboratory, this was actually done seven decades ago.

The problem remains WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY *NO* MEANS TO HARNESS THIS AND TURN IT INTO USEFUL ELECTRICITY. *NONE*. And none realistically on the horizon, either.

And that is before we get into other major questions: How do we sustain this reaction, for more than a small fraction of a second? How do we contain it, when we know that NO material can stand this sort of temperature? How much does it will it cost to build proper containment, and - more fundamentally - the means to transform the energy released into an ongoing source of electricity.

Keep your fingers crossed. Just don't hold your breath - nor invest in this tech.


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