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Re: Major War; Between Russia and West Could Break Out over Ukraine, Warns NATO Chief

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"it could be argued that since everyone dies anyway that all medical expenditures are a bad investment."

That's illogical. Again, it CAN come down to NET wealth gained or lost. If the person who is saved by the intervention goes on to create more net wealth than what it cost to save him, it was a win-win transaction all the way around. If not, then not.

I stressed "can", because I am not pretending that economic profitability is the only criteria by which to judge things. And knock on effects can be complicated and subject to different value chain estimates.

So, if you can look back at the situation and say "I am GLAD we spent our Constitutional rights and our children's future in order to fight a war in Vietnam, what can I say? What if I said that if we HADN'T done that, we wouldn't have collapsed our own Constituion and economy post 1971 -- and, thus, enabled Communist ideology to flourish in the US in 2020. Would you still chose the fighting over the thinking?

Wars are MISTAKES and WASTES. By that I mean, they may be forced upon you, but otherwise there WAS pretty much always a wiser path which, if taken earlier, would have pre-empted the war and the waste.

They are only profit centers in a zero sum game. Humanity needs to grow beyond zero sum thinking.


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Re: Major War; Between Russia and West Could Break Out over Ukraine, Warns NATO Chief
By: ribit
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Thu, 15 Dec 22 5:05 PM
Msg. 38299 of 58656

Did the thing we were primarily there to effect end up /not happening, anyway? If so, all the money and lives WASTED were a bad investment - and we lost the war, no matter how many "battles" we won (including all of them). 

...it could be argued that since everyone dies anyway that all medical expenditures are a bad investment.

I distinguish a military action from a war. You may not like my distinction, but I think it is an important distinction, with a specific - limited - scope, objective, and time period.  

...sounds like Putin's two or three day special operation.

...not all wars are about Territory.


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