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Re: Sun Tzu, The Art of War. And Trump!

By: Fiz in 6TH POPE | Recommend this post (0)
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Here are a couple more. Notice how little these describe the US forever-wars


“There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War


“Thus we may know that there are five essentials for victory:
1 He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.
2 He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces.
3 He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks.
4 He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.
5 He will win who has military capacity and is not interfered with by the sovereign.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Meditating on this, Trump was WAY underrated. No wonder he was so hated at home - and so respected in Asia. All without any bloody, prolonged conflict - and usually without a single penny for the military industrial complex and deep state lackeys.

Maybe the idea that the President is "Commander in Chief" is generally a US weakness? Not many Presidents seemed to understand the lessons of Sun Tzu, as Trump apparently did?



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Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"
By: Fiz in 6TH POPE
Thu, 15 Dec 22 11:40 PM 		Msg. 38308 of 58654

We are having our clock cleaned by the patient, decades long *military* campaign of certain parties, certainly including the Chinese CCP. We are mostly, though, having our clock cleaned by our profoundly bad military-industrial-complex and deep state, which sees, and achieves, profit FOR ITSELF in every conflict, no exceptions. And even hopes to turns US deaths, and US collapse, into profit.

For some reason, the idea that the more you HAVE TO blow up things and kill people, the more you lose seems to offend people here. I have a few Sun Tzu quotes to chew on. Notice how NONE of these things are being done by the US military to any effect:

“Supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

“Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

“If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected .”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

“The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War


If you lose vastly more wealth than you earn, with every "transaction", how many "transactions" is it best to participate in? -Fiz

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