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Re: Mind Blowing Jordan Peterson Interviews Physicist Roger Penrose on Nature of Consciousness, Reality, Math, Morality & Universe

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Re: “Why Penrose believes AI & algorithms cannot explain consciousness...that consciousness is something more which cannot be explained by current physics.”
By "current" physics? Of course not! That's why we don't have AI.

I get what he's saying, though. He doesn't think computer programmers will succeed in creating A.I.

Personally, I think that if they come close enough that nobody can tell whether they're sentient or not, the distinction won't really matter.








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Mind Blowing Jordan Peterson Interviews Physicist Roger Penrose on Nature of Consciousness, Reality, Math, Morality & Universe
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Asking a Theoretical Physicist About the Physics of Consciousness | Roger Penrose | #244

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi9ys2j1ncg

Penrose won the nobel prize in 2020 for his work on black holes, with Stephen Hawking. He is a notable mathematician and theoretical physicist who works mainly with advanced geometries.

Why Penrose believes AI & algorithms cannot explain consciousness...that consciousness is something more which cannot be explained by current physics. Why he believes the universe goes through cycles, yet expands forever (no contraction). And - at the very end - the current physical evidence, which no other current model can explain, that this is NOT the first cycle! Also, what is the connection between math, beauty, morality, NP (non computable) problems, and reality. Etc. Etc. Amazing, wide ranging discussion which is, yet, surprisingly accessible.


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