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Decomposed > Following World War II, we were primed to take down the U.S.S.R. Patton wanted to do so. We certainly could have -- easily.
Maybe. Maybe not.
Do you have any idea what happened to the Germans when they tried invading Russia? And then we Americans had provided Russia with enough planes and tanks and ammunition ... Russia, I think, would have been a tougher nut to crack for U.S. than when the Germans invaded.
Personally I don't think Russia should have been allowed to keep all those nations after WWII ... But we had the ravaged Western Europe to worry about getting back on its feet without trying to rebuild Eastern Europe.
Just a lil' historical perspective, here:
Winston Churchill expressed a desire to keep going and move against the Soviet Union at the end of World War II, as well. We had the atomic bomb and the Soviet Union did not. However, to truly pull this off, the Americans and the British would have had to be murderously ruthless and scorch the Soviet Union without mercy. Churchill knew this wouldn't fly with the American and British people because: (1) years of propaganda identified the Soviets as our "allies" in this war, (2) the American and British public were sick and tired of war and all the hardship that went along with it - they wouldn't want it extended against a supposed ally, and (3) the American and British people would not have the stomach for the vicious savagery that would have to be visited upon the Russian people in order to rid them of Uncle Joe and his merry band of Communists.
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. ~ D.H. Lawrence
Decomposed > The Civil War was fought because the South had been PICKED ON by a bullying, dominant North for years. They were sick and tired of it and wanted out.
There is that.
And there is the fact that I think I'd support spinning californica and the rest of the 'left coast' into independent nations . . with new yoke joke being another 'new nation'. (Rid ourselves of the worst of the 'woke retard' brigades).
Decomposed > Following World War II, we were primed to take down the U.S.S.R. Patton wanted to do so. We certainly could have -- easily.
Maybe. Maybe not.
Do you have any idea what happened to the Germans when they tried invading Russia? And then we Americans had provided Russia with enough planes and tanks and ammunition . . . Russia, I think, would have been a tougher nut to crack for U.S. than when the Germans invaded.
Personally I don't think Russia should have been allowed to keep all those nations after WWII . . . But we had the ravaged Western Europe to worry about getting back on its feet without trying to rebuild Eastern Europe.
Decomposed > Donald Trump correctly noted that forcing Russia - the world's energy giant - to join forces with China - the world's population and economic giant - is a colossally stupid move. If the war expands beyond Ukraine, the west will lose. Is it intelligent to destroy ourselves over Ukraine? It isn't even our ally.
True. And Russia has to consider the ramifications of becoming a Chinese vassal state.
And Russia isn't really 'the worlds energy giant'. The U.S. has a LOT of fossil fuels. Canada has lots of fossil fuels. North Sea Oil? The Israeli's pulling gas from beneath the mediterranean. How big are the Saudi oil reserves?
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