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Re: Q:What is Americas Exit Strategy for Ukraine??

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“When ALL of the Russians are out of Ukraine (including the Crimea and Donbas). “

Even the ones who lived there? Lots of Russian families have been there for a 100 years.


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Re: Q:What is Americas Exit Strategy for Ukraine??
By: Zimbler0
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Wed, 22 Feb 23 4:01 AM
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CTJ1950 > If you guys and Biden could say when it’s going to end. That would be great. But like all gov endeavors, their is no end, no goals,no milestones. That Biden spokesclown actually said “as long as it takes”.

No thanks. You people don’t seem to understand endless wars.

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When will 'it' end?
When ALL of the Russians are out of Ukraine (including the Crimea and Donbas).

When Russia unequivocally recognizes Ukraine (and other countries) right to not be invaded.

In the meantime . . what has this cost Russia so far?

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Forces: What Russia Lost

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htworld/articles/20230221.aspx

February 21, 2023:
A year of fighting in Ukraine has left the Russian army defeated, depleted and demoralized. Most of the army personnel available before the invasion have been killed, wounded or missing (captured, deserted or body not found). About half the troops were conscripts untrained for combat. Conscripts only serve for a year and are called up twice a year (spring and fall) and, by the time they have acquired useful skills, they are discharged and placed in the reserves. In Russian the government has your last known address and will try to notify you if there is a national emergency and all veterans of the military are needed quickly.

Few conscripts were prepared for the intensity of combat encountered in Ukraine. The other half of Russian military personnel joined voluntarily to serve longer and receive higher pay. These somewhat more experienced troops are what passed for NCOs, since Russia has not been able to recreate the NCO Corps it had a century ago but destroyed because the new communist government believed (with some justification) that sergeants are more likely to lead a revolution than more carefully selected and trained officers. Using junior officers to supervise the troops and lead them in combat did not work as well as the Western system of having sergeants supervising the troops and a junior officer to command and lead them in combat.
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Zim : Article does continue.

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https://www.newsweek.com › russia-lost-half-t72b-tanks-one-year-war-ukraine-western-tanks-1782314

Russia lost over half of its T-72B battle tank stock in one year—ISW
1 day ago Russian T-72 tank is loaded on a truck by Ukrainian soldiers outside the town of Izyum on September 24, 2022. Russian forces have lost about half of their T-72B and T-72B3M main battle tanks
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https://www.cnn.com › 2023 › 02 › 09 › europe › 1000-russian-tanks-destroyed-ukraine-war-intl-hnk-ml › index.html

At least 1,000 Russian tanks destroyed in the Ukraine war, Oryx says - CNN
Feb 9, 2023
The group said this week it has verified 1,000 distinct Russian tank losses in the war. It said a further 544 Russian tanks had been captured by Ukrainian forces, 79 damaged and 65 abandoned ...
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