Msg. 40445 of 60008 (This msg. is a reply to
40441 by
Zimbler0)
Jump:
"You can have US 'military might' or you can have US freedom. You can't have both."
This IS a direct quote from Fiz's Post #40400. And yes, this clearly opines that you can have one or the other - mutually exclusive. Therefore, under this premise ... if you have "U.S. freedom" ... then there would be no "U.S. military might." There is absolutely no other way to read this, Fiz.
Zim's response: "But if there is no 'U.S. Military Might' ... it will only be a matter of time before there is no 'U.S. Freedom.'" IMHO, this is a reasonable extrapolation - not a straw man argument.
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. ~ D.H. Lawrence
Fiz > Fiz > You can have US "military might" or you can have US freedom. You can't have both.
Zim: Above is a direct quote of what you typed.
Fiz > (1) I didn't say "no US Military Might" - did you deliberately make a straw man argument[a], because you can't win with logic and facts, or did you not know you were doing that?
Zim: Fiz,
I interpreted what you typed to mean we can have either 'military might' OR 'freedom' - but not both. And my contention remains that if we do not have some form of 'military might' it is only a matter of time before we have NO freedom. Or are you claiming you did not mean what you typed?
Your postulates (2) and [a] are both crap.
I'm going to address your middle paragraph in a new posting.
By the way, when all you can do is hurl insults and call names. . . it means you have lost the argument.
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