De: I just gave you a star.
That said, under MY prefered (most useful) definition of "losing", both the US and USSR lost their respective wars. Please consider: they came out vastly worse off for the experience. They came out vastly impoverished, vastly demoralized, vastly reduced in world stature, etc. from what they were when the entered their respective wars. They LOST.
Indeed, virtually all wars in human history end with TWO (or all) LOSERS. It is pretty rare for a country to exit a war having really profited/benefited enough from the experience to really call them a "winner". That is most of the point I keep trying to make here, which some seem unable to even consider. But it is true...or, at least, true enough, especially considering value differences.
There is another important point which is, perhaps, subtle but still worth meditating on: countries are NOT governments. They are not the geography, either.
"Russia"...as Russia, and even its current government, is QUITE distinct from the GOVERNMENT (fictitious entity) known as the USSR. The PEOPLE of who lived in the geographic region we call "Russia" were overwhelmingly anti-Communist by the time the USSR collapsed. Indeed, that is WHY it collapsed; the people had had enough - even if the "government" had not.
I suspect the US is much more "Marxist" now than is Russia. Just saying.;->
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