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Re: Steve Kirsh's Unusual Covid Treatment Protocol from 6/22 

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Re: "No, De, there IS a reason - or reasons - respiratory infections should begin in the nose. ..." ... "common sense (which can be misleading) suggests they should almost always begin there." ... "But I think my theory, in this case, is worth better. And I would appreciate anything you can come up with in terms of links or good arguments."
I don't know, fizz. Your "I'm right and you're wrong" response flies in the face of that appreciative request at the end for an alternative explanation. It doesn't sound like you really want your theory to be shot down.

Since you purport to be the definitive source for how it works, suppose you tell ME why "common sense" - suggests that viruses that require receptors not found in the nose should still infect via the nose.

A quick internet search tells me that "A cold virus enters your body through your mouth, eyes or nose." About 90% of cold viruses use the ICAM-1 receptor to infect, but aside from "leukocytes," I haven't found anything stipulating where ICAM-1 can be found. And, even so, 10% take other avenues. Even 10% of rhinoviruses use other receptors, so one thing I *can* conclude is that they don't all follow the same rules.

I notice that in your response, you said that infections "should" begin in the nose. And that "it would make sense." Hey, if you'd just said that up front and not gotten all high falutin' by declaring neti-pots the answer to "pretty nearly all" colds, I might have agreed with you from the start. Neti-pots won't help with viruses that enter via the mouth and hit the esophagus or lungs, and there are some that do that. Moreover, adaptive as viruses are, I am confident that even if 100% of the earth's people began using iodine nasal flushes on whatever schedule you recommend, the viruses would work around that and continue spreading with just about the frequency they do today. (If, however, we were to amputate everyone's arms, we might make some real progress.)









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Re: Steve Kirsh's Unusual Covid Treatment Protocol from 6/22
By: Fiz
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Wed, 22 Mar 23 2:53 PM
Msg. 41182 of 58577

De: "There's no reason for an infection to have to begin in the nose. It just commonly does."

No, De, there IS a reason - or reasons - respiratory infections should begin in the nose. Multiple reasons why it would make sense for them to preferentially begin there. I can think of enough reasons that would be their attack vector, and enough anecdotal evidence, that common sense (which can be misleading) suggests they should almost always begin there.

And, to the extent, they have been selected for to begin in the nose, they are less selected to begin elsewhere.

I wasn't asking to you display your credentials as a medical researcher; I was asking for links to articles or anything you had so you might educate me. (I wasn't claiming to know everything) I get the feeling you didn't take 1 minute to think before posting your initial "rebuttal"?

Sometimes I make that mistake; usually when I am tired, ill, or rushed. So no biggie.

But I think my theory, in this case, is worth better. And I would appreciate anything you can come up with in terms of links or good arguments.


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