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CTJ1950 > Wasn’t the Ukraine part of the Soviet Union?


Yes it was. And in 1991 the old USSR imploded and Ukraine plus a number of other former USSR 'Satellite States' declared their independence.

http://www.brookings.edu/research/the-trilateral-process-the-united-states-ukraine-russia-and-nuclear-weapons/

When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, Ukraine had the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal on its territory.

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The trilateral discussions accelerated in December, producing the Trilateral Statement and accompanying annex, signed by Kravchuk, Yelstin and U.S. President Bill Clinton in Moscow on January 14, 1994. Those documents provided that Ukraine would transfer all strategic warheads on its territory to Russia for elimination and, in return, would receive security assurances, compensation for the commercial value of the HEU, and Nunn-Lugar assistance to help with the disposal of ICBMs, ICBM silos, bombers and other infrastructure on Ukrainian territory. Perhaps as importantly but less tangibly, the Trilateral Statement removed what would have been a major impediment to Ukraine’s development of normal relations with the United States and the West.
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Zim: Near as I can tell, Ukraine surrendered all its nuclear weapons in exchange for a promise That Russia would never invade them . . . In 2014 Russia broke that promise. And the United States was a signatory on that promise.

Bottom line for me - the Russians are getting their tails kicked in Ukraine. Their 'invasion' is costing them a LOT more money than it is U.S. It hasn't cost any American lives, but the Russians have lost an unhealthy amount of their 'fighting age males' and it appears they are stripping their work forces of guys and sending them to die in Ukraine.

You are right about Russia, China, and Iran working to pull the U.S. down . . . But our own demo-rat party is doing more to deep-six these United States than anybody else.

Zim.




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Re: Endless Wars
By: ctj1950
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Mon, 27 Mar 23 12:09 AM
Msg. 41284 of 60008

Hmmmmm..
Zim,are you aware that Ukraine is Not part of the United States? Lol
Your condescending tone is an attribute of leftist. Your not a democrap are you?😂😂😂

Wasn’t the Ukraine part of the Soviet Union?

You should be concerned about OUR border. Not Ukraine’s border.
You just don’t get it. Our country is being destroyed. We should be taking care of our own country first. The Russians,Chinese and Iran are pulling us into foreign engagements to weaken and defeat us. We can barely win a single war. Multiple war will destroy us. It’s time for us to take care of our own.


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