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Fiz,
What you posted reads more like propaganda 'spin' than what I'm seeing in Ukraine.

Looking at search blurbs, it looks like Russian casualties in Bakhmut are five to seven times Ukrainian casualties. In other words, while Ukraine is losing guys in Bakhmut - Russia is losing a LOT more guys.

Which makes sense. Ukraine is fighting a defensive war - giving them the advantage of prepared fighting positions while the Russians have to attack into those positions. And then the Ukrainian soldiers are (comparatively speaking) well trained and the Russians are literally throwing un-trained conscripts into the battle zone.

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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/13/heavy-casualties-reported-in-bakhmut-as-battle-for-city-rages

“In less than a week, starting from the 6th March, we managed to kill more than 1,100 enemy soldiers in the Bakhmut sector alone, Russia’s irreversible loss, right there, near Bakhmut,” Zelenskyy said in his nightly video address.
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http://wentworthreport.com/2023/03/24/russias-latest-battlefield-antiques-tanks-from-the-1950s/

Russia’s Latest Battlefield Antiques — tanks from the 1950s! By Stephen Green.

It was barely two weeks ago that I wrote about the appearance of Russian “museum pieces” being readied for frontline combat in Ukraine. Having lost more than 3,000 capable main battle tanks from the late-’60s vintage T-64s through fully modernized T-90s, Moscow was pulling far less capable T-62 medium tanks out of storage.

Well, if the T-62 is a museum piece, then the T-54/55 series — whose development began before the Cold War officially began — is practically an archeological exhibit. And yet those very same tanks, first built when toddler Boomers were grooving on the first season of Howdy Doody, have been spotted on railcars moving west towards Ukraine from Soviet-era depots in the east. The Soviets built a crap ton of them, too — more than 60,000 between 1946 and 1981. …
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Zim : Not only is Russia having problems getting soldiers . . . Now they are using certifiable antique tanks.

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Russo-Ukrainian War: The World Blood Pump (shades of Verdun)
By: Fiz
in 6TH POPE
Mon, 27 Mar 23 7:58 AM
Msg. 41300 of 60008

http://bigserge.substack.com/p/russo-ukrainian-war-the-world-blood

Lots of military maps, strategy, and FACTS about NATO/Ukraine's mounting, catastrophic “Verdun”-like losses vs. Russia. Zim and Ribit SHOULD love this piece, because of its technical military detail. Unfortunately, the technical details don't support the GI Joe/ Neo-Con fantasy, so they may not have the courage to read it and try to rebut it on merits. I hope for better, of course.

January Post (so there will likely be some new facts not covered)
Excerpt:
"It is safe to say that western regime media has set a very low standard for reporting on the war in Ukraine, given the extent to which the mainstream narrative is disconnected from reality. Even given these low standards, the way the ongoing battle in Bakhmut is being presented to the population is truly ludicrous. The Bakhmut axis is being spun to western audiences as a perfect synthesis of all the tropes of Russian failure: in a nutshell, Russia is suffering horrible casualties as it struggles to capture a small town with negligible operational importance. British officials, in particular, have been highly vocal in recent weeks insisting that Bakhmut has little to no operational value.

The truth is the literal opposite of this story: Bakhmut is an operationally critical keystone position in the Ukrainian defense, and Russia has transformed it into a death pit which compels the Ukrainians to sacrifice exorbitant numbers of men in order to hold the position as long as possible. In fact, the insistence that Bakhmut is not operationally significant is mildly insulting to the audience, both because a quick glance at a map clearly shows it at the heart of the regional road network, and because Ukraine has thrown a huge number of units into the front there.
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Summary: The Death of a State

Ukraine’s military is extremely degraded, having taken exorbitant losses in both men and heavy weaponry. I believe Ukrainian KIA are approaching 150,000 at this point, and it is clear that their inventories of both artillery tubes, shells, and armored vehicles are largely exhausted.

I expect the Bakhmut-Siversk defensive line to be cleared before April, after which Russia will push towards the final (and weakest) defensive belt around Slavyansk. Meanwhile, Russia has significant combat power in reserve, which can be used to reopen the northern front on the west bank of the Oskil and restart offensive operations in Zaporozhia, placing Ukrainian logistics in critical danger.

This war will be fought to its conclusion on the battlefield and end in a favorable decision for Russia. "


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