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Re: “Without that, only common decency, keeps government employees as bay.” I am currently reading a book about America's founders. More specifically, it is about the first four presidents.

Early on, the author makes the point that the Founders made three huge mistakes. He writes:

“Their classical knowledge ultimately steered the Founders wrong on three crucial issues:” “• Whether the new nation could subsist on ‘public virtue,’ relying on the self-restraint of those in power to act for the common good and not their personal interest” “• Their misunderstanding of partisanship, or ‘action,’ as they tended to call it, nearly wrecked the new Republic in the 1790s.” “• The acceptance of human bondage, which would prove disastrous to the nation they designed. ”

I don't agree with him that slavery "proved disastrous to the nation." But I do agree with his first point, that the Founders believed that the nation would thrive under virtuous public servitude - and what a boneheaded conclusion THAT was! They really should have known better. Most of the Founders were well studied in both philosophy and human history, and history is fraught with examples of government corruption and treachery.








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Re: Is it Coincidence the Evil Woke Chose Holy Week to Charge Trump?
By: Fiz in 6TH POPE
Tue, 04 Apr 23 8:02 PM 		Msg. 41575 of 58580

The Founders left a MASSIVE loophole, inviting abuse, when they failed to include an 11th Amendment to protect the Bill of Rights with massive, non-discretionary penalties for anyone who violated the Bill of Rights with respect to another citizen.

And, specifically, they should have stripped all license, all pension, all citizenship from anyone who worked for the Federal Govt and was found to denied Civil Rights expressly put in the Bill of Rights.

Without that, only common decency, keeps government employees as bay. There are no real penalties for endlessly gaming loopholes in order to commit crimes without any real recourse.

I give the Founders a break because they couldn't have expected the State would ever become so large and powerful. But, going forward, I hope future Republics learn from our mistakes: The government WILL be gamed and primarily it will be gamed by those who run the government.

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