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Re: Wagner Chief Calls On Putin To Declare End Of War, "Gain Firm Foothold" On Held Territories

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Hmmmmm. . .

Interesting question - "Is Ukraine going to let Russia 'declare victory' and keep their 'prize'?

Because I wouldn't. If I were Ukraine I'd just keep on killing Russians till either Russia imploded (again) or they left every square millimeter of Ukraine.

I've seen stories claiming Russia has a LOT more artillery ammunition that Ukraine - that the 'West' is running out of ammunition to send . . . And I've also read stories about how Russia is reduced to begging and trading with Iran (on very favorable terms for Iran) to get more drones to use as 'poor mans cruise missiles' against the Ukrainians. With similar dealings with N. Korea for artillery shells.

I've also read where Russia lost virtually all of their front line tanks. . . Most of their best trained soldiers . . . That they are not meeting their conscription goals . . . and many Russian dudes are fleeing Russia to keep from being drafted.

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Ukraine’s Locally Produced Artillery Shells Have Reached The Front

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraines-locally-produced-artillery-shells-have-reached-the-front

Ukrainian-produced 152mm artillery shells filled with TNT have appeared on the front lines. The development speaks to how Ukraine’s defense enterprise has managed to remain functional after being subjected to nearly a full year of war and to an increasing artillery shortage that looms not just over Ukraine, but Russia too. Still, the scale at which they can continue producing these shells amid what has become a heavy artillery slug-fest is unclear.
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Wagner Chief Calls On Putin To Declare End Of War, "Gain Firm Foothold" On Held Territories
By: Fiz
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Sat, 15 Apr 23 7:12 PM
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http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/wagner-group-chief-calls-putin-declare-end-war-gain-firm-foothold-held-territories

Wagner Chief Calls On Putin To Declare End Of War, "Gain Firm Foothold" On Held Territories
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by Tyler Durden
Saturday, Apr 15, 2023 - 12:00 PM

Head of Russia's most prominent mercenary firm Wagner Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, has issued an unexpected call for the Kremlin to declare an end of the war in order to consolidate territory already gained.

A Friday statement by Prigozhin released by his press service suggested it's time to declare 'victory' and to focus on fully establishing Russian control over the occupied territories of Ukraine.

"For the authorities [of the Russian Federation – ed.] and for society as a whole, it is necessary to put some kind of bold full stop in the ‘special military operation’," the Wagner chief said [emphasis ours].
Russia’s Wagner Group posing in central Bakhmut.

The rare statement continued: "The ideal option is to announce the end of the special military operation, to inform everyone that Russia has achieved the results that it planned, and in a sense, we have really achieved them. We have ground a huge number of soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and can report to ourselves that our task has been completed."

"Theoretically, Russia has already received this full stop by destroying a large part of the active male population of Ukraine, by intimidating another part of it that has fled to Europe."

Prigozhin went on: "Russia has cut off the Azov Sea and a large chunk of the Black Sea, seized a fat chunk of Ukraine's territory, and created a land corridor to Crimea," and stressed that Russia can "gain a firm foothold, cling to the territories that already exist".

But he noted that "If earlier Ukraine was part of former Russia, now it is an absolutely national-oriented state".

This comes as Wagner is spearheading the largely successful offensive to capture Bakhmut and surrounding areas of Donetsk region. At least 80% of the largely destroyed city is currently in Russian hands.

#Bakhmut Update:#Russian forces continued to advance in Bakhmut on April 14. Geolocated footage showed that #Wagner Group forces made marginal gains in northwestern Bakhmut and advanced in southwestern Bakhmut.https://t.co/fgj818U037 pic.twitter.com/XX0Vc6qDX4
— ISW (@TheStudyofWar) April 15, 2023

A Russian defense ministry briefing on Saturday said "Wagner assault units have successfully advanced, capturing two districts on the northern and southern outskirts of the city." Western media too has generally acknowledged the Russian forces' steady advance.


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