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Re: What downside of leaving the U.S? Ecuador ?

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Rbit,

One last comment. I have lived in the Phillipines, back when children up to age ten couldn't afford pants and shoes.

I have also, more recently, spent time in Thailand where working class wages aren't that much higher, I don't think, than Ecuadorian.

BOTH incredibly impoverished Phillipino culture of decades ago, and current Thailand "impoverished" culture, seemed rich and happy, compared to comparable strata in the US.

Again, US "poor" are actually quite rich and entitled by world standards. (The only exception I would note of real US poverty on an experiential level, are the mentally ill/druggie/homeless US population, and the extremely aged in some areas of the country, where services are not available).

US is extraordinarily impoverished on a spiritual and community level. Our "culture", for the most part, is vapid, wasteful, arrogant, and consumer oriented.

I expect it to be like an A-bomb going off when the decades of US imperialism and militant arrogance meets what the US DESERVES ... and deserves or not, is coming.

Zombie Apocalypse indeed!

In all seriousness, if you pay attention to the rest of the world, you can see many instances where poor countries met fiscal disasters with way more class and camaraderie than the US entitled seem able to muster. That said, prices in the US on staples, such as basic vegetables and medicine, are insane. $5/day seems to go quite a long way in places like Ecuador or Thailand, provided you know where and when to shop, and how to conserve when you can!

My brother recently came back from travelling extensively, and with complete safety, in rural “impoverished” parts of the Philippines. The locals reportedly said they "don't understand" what is going on in the US. They said that in the Philippines, "Everyone KNOWS that if they don't work, they don't eat. And if they don't eat, they die." And that seems to motivate sanity, and working, and eating, well enough.


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Re: What downside of leaving the U.S? Ecuador ?
By: Fiz
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Mon, 15 May 23 2:45 PM
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Thanks for this, also! I have three comments:
(1) Notice how Ecuador citizens handle high poverty WAY better than US residents handle affluence (the poorest US citizens often still own phones, cars, and eat at fast food joints; relatively actually RICH compared to most of the world).
(2) The graph shows 75% poverty as recently as 2000. So the slight climb in recent years is still like heaven on earth compared to what they can handle without going feral / nuts.
(3) Just imagine how ugly our super-entitled ersatz "poor", and even our middle class, will become when they get what they have coming to them and meet Ecuador half-way in the coming decade.

#3, alone, should make you want to try out a more impoverished country, while you can still practice.

Good point, though, rbit! I m am glad you posted that graph!


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