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Trying to surrender Ukraine to Russia again?

While scrolling through the yahoo news feeds, I noticed a couple of times where Russia allegedly wants 'peace'. A negotiated peace where Ukraine's 'allies' are supposed to pressure Ukraine to 'surrender territory' to Russia.

If Russia is losing bad and they know they are losing bad. . . This is the sort of ploy they would make. "Peace NOW" . . . But how good is Russia's word that they won't try to seize Ukraine again after they've had time to re-build their Army and re-stock their arsenals?

Judging by historical precedents, not good at all.

And then Russia might be looking at another 'Revolution' . . . How many Russians like the idea of their sons/lovers/husbands getting slaughtered in Ukraine?

Were I Ukraine the only way Russia would get any 'Peace' is by removing ALL Russian troops from All of Ukraine. And Putin and a number of other Russians are to be tried for war crimes.

Crimea has shipyards and ports. Russia can not be allowed to keep any of it.

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Luongo: No Truce With the Heartland. (Highly recommended, as a check up from the neck up)
By: Fiz
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Sat, 27 May 23 10:59 PM
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Luongo is wrong? Why? Tell us why.

http://tomluongo.me/2023/05/23/no-truce-with-the-heartland/

No Truce With the Heartland
Date: May 23, 2023Author: Tom Luongo 4 Comments
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All of us so-called geopolitical analysts owe a debt to Halford John Mackinder. His 1904 paper, “The Geographical Pivot of History” is the basis for nearly all strategic thinking in today’s policy rooms, think tanks, and military academies of the West.

We’ve all heard the first three rules of Mackinder:

Who rules Eastern Europe commands the Heartland
Who rules the Heartland commands the World Island
Who rules the World Island commands the world

Because of the dominance of Mackinder’s ideas and the policies erected to support it, the world has been subjected to endless conflict over his conception of the “World Island,” which is basically Eurasia.

And that’s why there can be no losing for the West in Ukraine. To the Mackinderists at the top of the power structures in London, Washington D.C. and Brussels, losing Ukraine means losing the entire world, because they have this very-outdated view of world geography.

Mackinder-ism in today’s world is a tautology, reducing to: We have to control the Heartland because we can’t lose the Heartland.

In this singular quest to win the Heartland the West has bankrupted itself — economically, morally, and most importantly, spiritually. This has led to a political crisis gnawing at the center of western society.

Alastair Crooke’s latest piece sums up the situation perfectly, “The EU Is Over-Invested in the Ukrainian War-Project.“

But it isn’t just the EU that has done this. So has the UK. So too the US.

The cost/benefit analysis of continuing the Ukraine project has reached the tipping point. The problem now is too many in power, like European Commission President Ursula Von der Leyen, still believe they have room to maneuver in a conflict looking increasingly stuck in the geopolitical mud of the Donbass.

After meeting in Hiroshima, the city of peace, we are moving forward together.

We agreed that:

Security in Europe and Asia is indivisible and UN principles must be upheld;

Climate action will be stepped up;

Partnerships should be win-win.

The @G7 is more united than ever. pic.twitter.com/UJ96Jf6OMg
— Ursula von der Leyen (@vonderleyen) May 21, 2023

The optics at the G7 meeting couldn’t be more stark. Meeting in the one city that is the ultimate symbol of Western madness, Hiroshima, the symbolism was very clear. We are united in our self-righteousness and if you don’t like it, remember what happened to Japan.

We will destroy the planet in order to save it.. Indivisible European/Asian security is a euphemism for global war.

No amount of failure seems to dissuade these people. Because failure is simply not an option.

The problem however, is that their myopia is predictable.
Bad Code

When you reduce all of your guiding principles to three lines of code, defeating that code becomes pretty easy, strategically. It doesn’t matter if Mackinder was right or not. He wasn’t. What matters is that the policy-makers think he was.

We’ve all spent too many words working through this. It’s very simple.

If you know your opponent will throw everything they have at a conflict then your strategy is a simple one; destroy everything they throw at it until they run out of money, men, and materiel to throw into it.

And this is exactly what Russia has done.

It is exactly what I expected them to do at the outset of the war (here, here, and here) failing a swift victory over Ukraine; continue their war of attrition across all theaters against the West until they either 1) sue for peace or 2) collapse under the weight of their own hubris.

Former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson (Who else?), put the kibosh on any early negotiated settlement between Russia and Ukraine.

To Crooke’s point, the West’s investment in Ukraine was simply too big to give up that easily. Believing the ultimate sanctions package would overthrow Putin and destabilize Russia, both Davos and the Anglo-neocons bet too heavily on this working. As my dad used to say about pro athletes, “he spends too much time reading his press clippings…”

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