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Re: Why Patriots Shouldn't Pledge Allegiance: Written By a Socialist to Train "slavish ritual of devotion to the state" has no place in a free society

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Just some info Re: mandatory military service:

In Israel, every person who is of oage must serve two years in the Israeli military.


What the military does is instill discipline into your thoughts and actions as well as teach ya how to fight. Some are better than others at hand to hand combat but if ya has been trained rigorously, most of the time, not all, you will be the one walking away from such an encounter..

As you well know there is not a lot of discipline in many people. They immediately speak about something they know nothing about , and it shows. They do things they are ill prepared and not prepared at all to do.

So, discipline teaches us NOT to do something and keep yer YAP shut when ya don;t know the subject matter and make a fool of yerself as well as the physical aspects of when to fight and when to live to fight another day..

When ya finally reaches the ancient age of Ribit and anyone else 70 or older, then we can overlook things that may be slightly "off" .

As far as declaring one's loyalty or willingness to fight for their country , I see absolutely nothing wrong with that, but with some rationale.

IF the country is under military assault or attack from a foreign country and we have to fight for our homeland, then by all means don;t wait to be asked.

Defend it or lose it forever, unless one wants to learn Chinese...

There are some other exceptions I would make but because we are indeed a nation that also has freedom of thought, it is not up to me to make up rules or reasons to join the military..

I just basically wanted to add two pennies worth of thought and nobody is forced or coerced to agree.




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Why Patriots Shouldn't Pledge Allegiance: Written By a Socialist to Train "slavish ritual of devotion to the state" has no place in a free society
By: Fiz
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Sun, 11 Jun 23 1:59 PM
Msg. 43366 of 60008

Even though my reflexive reaction was "Oh, no, Mr. Bill!", I realized THAT reflexive reaction was, itself, proof he is correct!

The Statists have been working for generations to debase and "train" us to be docile to their takeover of our Independence. Time debasing oneself with a government "job" or, more quickly, in the military, completes the Pavlovian conditioning: turning free people into CopperTops.

http://starkrealities.substack.com/p/why-patriots-shouldnt-pledge-allegiance

We should wake up every day and renew a pledge to NEVER surrender to the State! To humiliate and destroy those who seek to have a “career” as a Central Planner...always at our expense.

FWIW, I do favor MANDATORY, front line, 1 year military basic training for all citizens who want the right to vote. They can serve that policing the southern border. Then they need to leave their training, but keep their gun always ready and by their side!


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