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43707 Re: The Failing Ukraine Counteroffensive And It's UGLY Aftermath
   Zim, I notice that slavery has been, as it has to be, REDEFINED in...
Fiz   6TH POPE   22 Jun 2023
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43706 Re: The Failing Ukraine Counteroffensive And It's UGLY Aftermath
    By: Zimbler0 in 6TH POPE
Thu, 22 Jun 23 7:04 AM
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Fiz > Again, I suggest you read up (actually both of us read up more) on Ottoman and even earlier MAJOR civilizations based out of the people and even the religion we now call Islam.

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Islamic views on slavery
Islamic views on slavery represent a complex and multifaceted body of Islamic thought, with various Islamic groups or thinkers espousing views on the matter which have been radically different throughout history. Slavery was a mainstay of life in pre-Islamic Arabia and surrounding lands.
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Fiz,
Back before the British Empire EVERY Empire and every peoples practiced slavery. Granted, there were some empires that 'co-opted the locals' and thereby managed to build an empire stronger and longer lasting than many others. But in those days slavery was a common practice all over the world.

But where most peoples on this planet eventually outlawed slavery - islam seems to still accept it.

I believe your original question was "Where will the next 'Shining City on a Hill' be found?

And I believe that that 'shining city' was due to America's attempt to enshrine 'Human Rights' in the Constitution - and NONE of the empires of antiquity had any such thing as a 'Bill of Rights'.

I do not believe America is in the 'empire business' any more - but Russia, China, and a lot of other countries are, or would be if they thought they could get away with it. And I don't believe any of the 'empire builders' care about 'Human Rights'.

I found this to be an interesting article.

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http://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-that-still-have-slavery

Countries that Still Have Slavery 2023
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Seems slavery is more widespread on this planet than I thought it was . . .

Zim.




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