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Re: “You can't burn a billion years worth of stored sunlight (which is what oil and other hydrocarbons are) in 150 years and not dump a monstrously large amount of kcals into the environment. Physics says there is man-made global warming. Anyone who can't understand that is probably mentally impaired.”
I must be mentally impaired - because I sure don't understand what you just said.

Per M.I.T., "A total of 173,000 terawatts (trillions of watts) of solar energy strikes the Earth continuously. That's more than 10,000 times the world's total energy use."

Since your understanding is so much greater than mine, not to mention this M.I.T. author's, please explain why our view - that humans release SOME heat into the atmosphere, but the amount is insignificant next to even the tiniest of changes in solar activity - is wrong. Humanity's energy release is certainly not enough to constitute a problem that we EVER need to worry about.

Now, if you want to argue that the accumulated CO2 emissions are amplifying the effect of solar radiation, then you might be on to something. But your posted argument (and the implied insult to anyone who disagrees) isn't that at all. So, challenge accepted. Why are you right ... and M.I.T. and I wrong?

http://news.mit.edu/2011/energy-scale-part3-1026#:~:text=A%20total%20of%20173%2C000%20terawatts,the%20world's%20total%20energy%20use.




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Re: Climate Hoax
By: Fiz
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Sun, 25 Jun 23 1:17 PM
Msg. 43798 of 60008

Zim, I read the article.

The science behind "global warming" is so corrupted by government and other manipulation that it is not science. So it should be ignored and people who publish nonsense should have their PhDs revoked.

That said, it is thermodynamically impossible that "man-made global warming" isn't happening. Think about it: You can't burn a billion years worth of stored sunlight (which is what oil and other hydrocarbons are) in 150 years and not dump a monstrously large amount of kcals into the environment. Physics says there is man-made global warming. Anyone who can't understand that is probably mentally impaired.

The question is what happens with the kcals which are dumped into the greater system. And, in particular, how big a problem is that versus other KNOWN problems such as:
(1) microplastics
(2) PFAs, neurotoxins, endocrine disruptors, and many other TOXIC chemicals which are being dumped into the environment.
(3) peak oil and the whole problem of how to power a society which requires ever increasing energy & resource consumption, and concommitant "man-made global warming" in order to not collapse and kill almost everyone.
(4) Many, many other proximate problems, now including idiots playing with genetic material and dumping it into the environment and into the human body.
(5) Many, many other proximate problems, including privacy and castrating government in a growing, totalitarian, surveillance state.

On my list, "global warming" is OBVIOUSLY not something worth devoting resources to until all the much more dangerous, proximate, and more tractible problems are dealt with.

IF and when we deal with the top 99 or so problems, and no other more pressing problems arise, we will probably find that #100 AKA "man-made global warming" has magically been resolved.

Otherwise, we can adapt to "climate change" in the way all life has been doing successfully for hundreds of millions of years, by MOVING AND ADAPTING.


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