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Fiz > (a) Infrastructure: You can't build a transcontinental transportation, communication, nor banking system except with overarching planning and standards enforcement. Similarly, you can't have strictly local enforcement of federal crimes such as murder and fraud.


What does 'law enforcement' have to do with 'infrastructure'? And only rarely is 'murder' a federal perogative. Most fraud is also local in nature. Hence, the vast majority of 'law enforcement' needs to be handled at the Local and State levels.

A banking system is also not infrastructure. Granted, we need bankers etc. and because many banks operate across State lines there is a need for federal regulation of the banking industry.


Fiz > (b) Military: I favor a system similar to what Switzerland has, of mandatory 1 year military service time for those who wish to have the power to vote and have full citizenship.


I like the idea of a well armed civilian populace. I'm not so sure about the need to have military service to vote . . . But I do believe welfare recipients should NOT be allowed to vote. (If only because they will most assuredly vote for whoever promises to increase welfare benefits - and that sort of pandering is (or ought to be) illegal.)


Fiz > (c) Health Care: We already have "socialized medicine", it just happens to be hopelessly expensive and corrupt. >> and >> That said, any first tier country can't leave mentally ill, and other unable-to-take-care-of-themselves people, sleeping and dying on the sidewalk.


Health care should be a State or local or individual thing. It should NOT be the federal governments responsibility. Why? Because some States already do a good job caring for their People . . while other States do a terrible job. The People in States doing a good job should NOT be billed to 'provide for' folks in 'terrible States'.

Take californica for example. They have the Mother of All Homeless Person Problems . . . But it is of their own making. One story said californica was spending a half million dollars per unit to build what amounts to one bedroom crappy studio apartments for homeless persons . . . Smells like a corrupt politician conspiring with a crooked contractor to get rich at other peoples expense. Irregardless, why should Virginia (or any other State) be paying to take care of their own problems AND californica's?

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Sun, 25 Jun 23 12:54 PM
Msg. 43797 of 60008

Micro: "DId you vote for Obammy the felon?
I think you may have from my reading of your posts and leanings on some issues."

Nope. I would never have done that. I favor minimal government in all areas except, to some extent, (a) "infrastructure", (b) military, and (c) very basic health care.

(a) Infrastructure: You can't build a transcontinental transportation, communication, nor banking system except with overarching planning and standards enforcement. Similarly, you can't have strictly local enforcement of federal crimes such as murder and fraud.
(b) Military: I favor a system similar to what Switzerland has, of mandatory 1 year military service time for those who wish to have the power to vote and have full citizenship. Citizens are required to keep their guns and keep up to minimal standards of practice, so maybe a month of additional training every five years or so. Other than that, there should be no standing army and, obviously, no foreign military bases.
(c) Health Care: We already have "socialized medicine", it just happens to be hopelessly expensive and corrupt. Indeed, if you think about it, the "price fixing" and other shenanigans which underlie our system qualify as racketeering under RICO and other laws. They law just isn't enforced.

That said, any first tier country can't leave mentally ill, and other unable-to-take-care-of-themselves people, sleeping and dying on the sidewalk. That spreads disease and pulls down society as a whole. If a person is in that situation they are, by definition, incompetent to take care of themselves. People who are incompetent to take care of themselves shouldn't be allowed full-citizenship rights (e.g., ability to vote, have children, or carry a weapon) until they are able to take care of themselves again. Which may be never or it may be a few months later. There needs to be a minimal safety net -- it just needs to be non-optional and set at a much more basic level.

All that said, by the time Obama was running in 2008 he was running against McInsane. I wouldn't have voted for Obama, but I CERTAINLY preferred he win versus "McInsane". McInsane should have been FORCED to go to the front line in Iraq or Afghan and not allowed to come back until he had taken a bullet. (He had already crashed, I believe, THREE planes and really needed to do time in infantry, up close and personal. He was no "war hero" in any real sense.)

As you can see, I may not call myself a "Conservative" but I am likely the most honestly conservative person on this board. I believe in conserving good things and recycling bad things.


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