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Fiz > That said, it is thermodynamically impossible that "man-made global warming" isn't happening. Think about it: You can't burn a billion years worth of stored sunlight (which is what oil and other hydrocarbons are) in 150 years and not dump a monstrously large amount of kcals into the environment.


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Now you are trying to say it is not the CO2 but the 'kilo-calories' of heat released in the last 150 years?

Let me see . . . If one puts a pan on the stove, turns the stove on, the pan gets hot. Turn the stove off. Wait a while, and the pan gets cold again. Where did the heat go? Into the atmosphere. Now, believe it or not, this planet radiates 'excess heat' back out of the atmosphere into space.

Each Day :
According to the World Book Encyclopedia, "about 126 trillion horsepower is sent to earth."Dividing the converted value of 9.4 × 10 16 watts by 2 × 10 −9 gives a total power of 4.7 × 10 25 watts.

World electricity consumption (including transmission and distribution losses) averages about 2.3 TW. Or about 55 TWh per day.

So each day the sun dumps about 5 X 10^^25 watts on us . . . and (electrical only) we make a fraction of that - 2.3 X 10^^12.

To put it another way, the Sun is the biggest driver of climate and temperature on this planet. By a HUGE margin.

Now, me personally, I would not mind seeing our CO2 emissions lowered and the overall amount of CO2 in the air start decreasing. But it needs to be done in a sane manner. And it smells like everything currently done or being done is either stealing and misappropriating our resources while NEVER helping the problem, or lowering 'The Peoples' standard of living (while the rich continue to burn through the fossil fuels like there is no end to them).

What we got is obozo not being punished for his 'green energy' scams and this 'green new deal' filling up the hog troughs . . . I'd rather crispy critter the planet than put up with this level of grift and corruption.

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Re: Climate Hoax
By: Fiz
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Sun, 25 Jun 23 1:17 PM
Msg. 43798 of 60008

Zim, I read the article.

The science behind "global warming" is so corrupted by government and other manipulation that it is not science. So it should be ignored and people who publish nonsense should have their PhDs revoked.

That said, it is thermodynamically impossible that "man-made global warming" isn't happening. Think about it: You can't burn a billion years worth of stored sunlight (which is what oil and other hydrocarbons are) in 150 years and not dump a monstrously large amount of kcals into the environment. Physics says there is man-made global warming. Anyone who can't understand that is probably mentally impaired.

The question is what happens with the kcals which are dumped into the greater system. And, in particular, how big a problem is that versus other KNOWN problems such as:
(1) microplastics
(2) PFAs, neurotoxins, endocrine disruptors, and many other TOXIC chemicals which are being dumped into the environment.
(3) peak oil and the whole problem of how to power a society which requires ever increasing energy & resource consumption, and concommitant "man-made global warming" in order to not collapse and kill almost everyone.
(4) Many, many other proximate problems, now including idiots playing with genetic material and dumping it into the environment and into the human body.
(5) Many, many other proximate problems, including privacy and castrating government in a growing, totalitarian, surveillance state.

On my list, "global warming" is OBVIOUSLY not something worth devoting resources to until all the much more dangerous, proximate, and more tractible problems are dealt with.

IF and when we deal with the top 99 or so problems, and no other more pressing problems arise, we will probably find that #100 AKA "man-made global warming" has magically been resolved.

Otherwise, we can adapt to "climate change" in the way all life has been doing successfully for hundreds of millions of years, by MOVING AND ADAPTING.


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