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Re: Climate Hoax 

By: Zimbler0 in 6TH POPE | Recommend this post (1)
Mon, 26 Jun 23 8:38 PM | 35 view(s)
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Fiz > How exactly do those graphs support that as the only cause of earth's polar ice/no-ice variation?
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Fiz > I think government's have contaminated the data and not made their case.
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Fiz > I only wanted to point out that humans DO add heat to the environment; are you trying to say that burning oil isn't an exothermic chemical reaction?


Point two first - the government(s) have most assuredly so contaminated the data that it is impossible to truthfully make any case as to what the 'climate' is actually doing.

Point three. Yes, humans do, most assuredly, dump heat into the environment. But that amount is minuscule compared to the energy the Sun bombards this planet with every single day.

Point one. Two of the sites I have recently referenced had a graphic showing how these 'Milankovitch cycles' are a change in the earths orbit. I believe one site claimed that the solar radiation reaching earth could change by as much as 25% (in certain latitudes) . . . Given that the sun is the primary thing keeping this planet from turning into a frozen ball of rock . . .

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Milankovitch cycles: What are they and how do they affect Earth?

http://www.space.com/milankovitch-cycles

The Milankovitch cycles are the driving force behind ice ages, climate shifts and habitability of planets.

Milankovitch cycles are periodic changes in the orbital characteristics of a planet that control how much sunlight it receives, thus affecting its climate and habitability over hundreds of thousands of years.

Although Milankovitch cycles have nothing to do with the current climate change, they are believed to have dictated Earth's climate for millions of years, making the planet swing periodically between tens to hundreds of thousands-year long ice ages and warmer periods called interglacials, such as the one we live in.
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Re: Climate Hoax
By: Fiz in 6TH POPE
Mon, 26 Jun 23 6:39 AM 		Msg. 43842 of 60008

I like those graphs, Zim! Thanks. I just gave you a star for those and I am archiving the link so I can hopefully find it again.

"http://climatecraze.com/ and look at all the charts and read all the words . . . You might learn something."

The ones showing a lack of correlation between C02 and warm temperatures are nice.

What, specifically, are you asking me to consider? I didn't say the sun had no impact on climate; I only said I thought it was more complicated than that -- just as the charts seem to show it is quite complicated.

So this theory says that the earth's orbit around the sun varies through long periods do to gravitational interactions with Jupiter and Saturn and THAT causes change to the amount of sunlight hitting the earth? That sounds like an interesting theory. How exactly do those graphs support that as the only cause of earth's polar ice/no-ice variation?

In general, I am not sure what you are trying to educate me on with regard to this topic. It seems to me, you and I agree for the most part. I think government's have contaminated the data and not made their case.

I only wanted to point out that humans DO add heat to the environment; are you trying to say that burning oil isn't an exothermic chemical reaction?

Maybe you posted something which was critical to your argument and I missed it. I would consider it a kindness if you would take the time to lay it out for me again, and I will try harder this time.

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